Oh, hey Austin, you too?

From Bloomberg:

Plunging Home Prices, Fleeing Companies: Austin’s Glow Is Fading

Oracle Corp. is moving its headquarters out of the city. Tesla Inc. is pulling back after a rapid expansion. Almost a quarter of commercial office space is vacant, and nowhere in the country have residential real estate prices fallen further from their pandemic peak.

Austin, the cosmic cowboy paradise that became a Covid-era economic superstar as it lured Elon Musk and a host of California refugees with its low taxes and sunny weather, had become accustomed to a steady drumbeat of good news. But lately that’s changed. And on Tuesday, Larry Ellison announced that his software company will shift its headquarters from the Texas capital to Nashville, Tennessee. It was a brief marriage — Oracle only arrived in Austin in 2020 — but getting jilted is never easy.

“City Hall was as surprised as everyone else,” Mayor Kirk Watsonsaid in a statement. 

But maybe he shouldn’t have been so shocked. Austin has been going so strong for so long that the tide was bound to turn. 

After a 12-year streak as the fastest growing large metro area in the US, Austin lost that slot in 2023. An office glut has pushed the vacancy rate 5 percentage points higher than the US average, according to data from Colliers. Home prices have dropped 18% from the pandemic highs seen in May 2022, the most among the 50 largest US metro areas, Redfin data show. Even so, the city ranks as one of the least affordable housing markets.

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80 Responses to Oh, hey Austin, you too?

  1. DollarBill says:


    Been awhile since I last posted. Looks like the real estate market is finally doing its slow turn south. If we get some more job losses, then I believe we will see lower prices across the board.

  2. grim says:

    State Coincident Indexes for March from the Fed:


    In the three months to March, the coincident index for Pennsylvania increased 0.5 percent. The level of payroll employment increased over the past three months, while the unemployment rate was unchanged. However, average hours worked in manufacturing decreased. Overall, Pennsylvania’s economic activity as measured by the coincident index has risen 2.2 percent over the past 12 months.

    New Jersey
    In the three months to March, the coincident index for New Jersey increased 0.6 percent. The level of payroll employment increased over the past three months, while the unemployment rate was unchanged. In addition, average hours worked in manufacturing increased. Overall, New Jersey’s economic activity as measured by the coincident index has increased 0.9 percent over the past 12 months.

    In the three months to March, the coincident index for Delaware rose 1.1 percent. The level of payroll employment increased over the past three months, while the unemployment rate decreased. However, average hours worked in manufacturing decreased. Overall, Delaware’s economic activity as measured by the coincident index has risen 2.1 percent over the past 12 months.

  3. Very Stable Genius says:

    Trump advisors are considering plans to dramatically revamp the Fed, WSJ report says
    PUBLISHED FRI, APR 26 20246:53 AM EDT

    WASHINGTON—Donald Trump’s allies are quietly drafting proposals that would attempt to erode the Federal Reserve’s independence if the former president wins a second term, in the midst of a deepening divide among his advisers over how aggressively to challenge the central bank’s authority.

    Former Trump administration officials and other supporters of the presumptive GOP nominee have in recent months discussed a range of proposals, from incremental policy changes to a long-shot assertion that the president himself should play a role in setting interest rates. A small group of the former president’s allies—whose work is so secretive that even some prominent former Trump economic aides weren’t aware of it—has produced a roughly 10-page document outlining a policy vision for the central bank, according to people familiar with the matter

  4. Fast Eddie says:

    Make your prediction where it goes from here:


  5. 1987 Condo says:

    The large 400 unit “luxury” apartment complex in my town has gone silent, after denuding the land and building large cement foundation walls, the rumor has been that the flow of money has stopped. No activity for at least the last 2 months….

  6. TraitorJoe says:

    Central bankers are hand in hand with the forever war neocons and open borders globalists. Sometimes one and the same. These are the people pulling joes strings.

  7. TraitorJoe says:

    Perfect time for Harvey’s conviction to be overturned. There was a big fundraiser yesterday and they could use his help.

  8. OrangeTraitorDollars says:


    I think what you are seen is the issue with regional and smaller banks. Expect to see more of it. Example is Everbank was originally a web bank, bought out Bank of Florida when it failed in the financial crisis. Was itself bought out by TIAA-CREF. TIAA has been trying to spin it out since end of ‘22. After the small banking crisis with regional banks, everything seems to be in limbo, they just keep announcing completion of spin out for the last year, it has the new Everbank name and logo, but you still got to log on with TIAA.

    Traitor Trump,

    Your Central Bank post touched on an issue that is rarely touched on. In your world’s dictionary. Globalist, Central Bankers, Neocons are code words for Jewish influence.

    Is expectable that the douche crowd following your Orange Traitors are the schemers of religions, gold coins and crypto promoters.

    I do expect gold to go to moon if we go 3rd world banana republic with the fed.

  9. 3b says:

    Just back from taking care of some business in Hackensack, and the apartment boom is still going on, construction everything. I have to say it is a big improvement. Hackensack was a very dreary sad looking town.

  10. Fast Eddie says:

    Hackensack has revamped Main Street. It looks good. Hey, ya know, it’s Bergen County… they have images to uphold.

  11. Phoenix says:

    Just like America surrounded Russia. Now you have a war there.
    Used to think the Repubs were the “war starters.”

    Looks like it’s the Dems who are the bloodthirsty ones after all.

    Since the start of his administration, President Biden has undertaken a strategy to expand American military access to bases in allied nations across the Asia-Pacific region and to deploy a range of new weapons systems there.

  12. Boomer Remover says:

    Come on… you can’t remove the decrepit infrastructure out of Hackensack with a few apartment buildings. It remains sad.

  13. 3b says:

    Fast: Yeah , Hackensack is undergoing a major revival . I don’t know if there is the demand for all that rental housing, but eventually they will rent them all. I don’t think it will become Hoboken north, like the planners envision , but it’s still a big improvement. Hackensack was a really depressing, dreary town, especially on a rainy day.

  14. Phoenix says:

    Hehe. Yeah, that was no accident. Or mistake.

    Sorry ladies, you went after a fish that was much bigger than your rod or reel could handle.

    TraitorJoe says:
    April 26, 2024 at 8:29 am
    Perfect time for Harvey’s conviction to be overturned. There was a big fundraiser yesterday and they could use his help.

  15. Phoenix says:

    Will become the “projects” of the future.

    3b says:
    April 26, 2024 at 9:24 am
    Just back from taking care of some business in Hackensack, and the apartment boom is still going on, construction everything. I have to say it is a big improvement. Hackensack was a very dreary sad looking town.

  16. BRT says:

    House across the street from me is under contract after 2 days. My guess is, $850k. To put it in perspective, I paid $435k in 2011. 50 families in and out during the open house. Other neighbor just agreed to sell his house privately yesterday after the fact. Probably also getting $850k. A lot of desperation buying going on in my neck of the woods.

  17. Libturd says:


    I agree. I just hope the economy holds up and all of these new overpriced projects don’t end up like Starrett City.

  18. BRT says:

    It’s probably an improvement in Hackensack from an economic perspective. From a quality of life perspective, not so much. Like I said, I was there for about 3 days a few weeks back. The roads are terrible. Bumpy, potholes, and NYC transplants trying to cause an accident every 100 ft.

  19. Hold my beer says:


    But will they be doing their own landscaping?

  20. Phoenix says:

    NYC transplants are causing havoc everywhere.

  21. Phoenix says:

    Too bad the teacher is going to be in trouble for doing this if the “allegation” is true.
    I don’t blame the guy.

    Shocking footage shows the moment a Las Vegas substitute teacher fought a high school student that allegedly called him a racial slur.

    Re’Kwon Smith, 27, is seen in footage posted to social media repeatedly punching a student, who is also engaged in the brawl.

  22. 3b says:

    BRT: It should be an economic improvement for Hackensack overall, but is certainly an aesthetic improvement for Hackensack. That said you are right, the roads are a mess, in Bergen Co. And lots of asshole drivers NY/NJ plates, the biggest ones I have seen typically drive Tesla s or BMWs, ( just an observation) . I think they have penis size issues.

  23. 3b says:

    Lib: You have a point, if we have an economic downturn ( at some point we will), we could have some “project” like developments in some of those towns, like Paramus , Park Ridge, Emerson, as well as Hackensack.

  24. Hold my beer says:


    Tesla drivers tend to drive like BMW and Mercedes drivers in my area too.

  25. Phoenix says:

    Why is this? What about those cars gives those people attitudes?

    Hold my beer says:
    April 26, 2024 at 10:46 am

    Tesla drivers tend to drive like BMW and Mercedes drivers in my area too.

  26. BRT says:

    The fact that they are expensive. About 15 years ago, they did an extensive study at a 4 way stop and found that German Automobiles had a much higher percentage of cutting someone off than other drivers. The one exception at the time was Toyota Prius drivers, who also exhibited the same behavior. Likely, it’s just people who think they are better and more important than everyone else. And at that time, the Prius people though they were saving the universe.

  27. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Penis size issues.

  28. Libturd says:

    German cars mainly, but I’ve noticed it with some Tesla drivers too. Though I agree, BMW drivers are the worst, followed by Audi and then VW. For the most part, Mercedes are excluded, I suppose, because kids simply can’t afford them. I’m guessing the German Car Prick comes from the owners thinking they are special since they purchased the most overpriced car option from both a maintenance and purchase price aspect. It truly does seem like they must be making up for an erectile dysfunction issue.

    The other thing I notice when driving a lot, and I have shared this with Gator. It appears there are two types of dangerous drivers. First, there are men who intentionally and stupidly drive dangerously. They weave in and out of traffic only to end up about two car lengths ahead of you at the exit toll. Seems like an awfully stupid risk to take for so little benefit. The second type are unintentionally reckless women drivers. The ones with their phones in the center of the steering wheel, or the ones who just about miss their exit and without looking, will change three lanes at the last second without even checking their rearview mirror. These same drivers will sometimes miss their exit entirely and will be found driving in reverse in the shoulder for a quarter of a mile or so, since going to the next exit and making a u-turn has never entered their empty heads. You occasionally see them with their car stopped between an exit lane and the right lane like a Backgammon piece. They will eventually move, once they roll a double.

  29. Fast Eddie says:

    I have a BMW. So, I have a penis size issue AND erectile dysfunction?

    Damn! I guess I better find a hobby. /shoulders shrug/

  30. Phoenix says:


    You and LAX have something in common.

    That’s nice.

  31. Very Stable Genius says:

    Some in here trying to distract us with college kids protests,
    while Maga secretly prepares to obliterate our institutions.

  32. leftwing says:

    “In your world’s dictionary. Globalist, Central Bankers, Neocons are code words for Jewish influence.”

    Ahhhhh, the sweet smell of a Friday morning accompanied by the predictable dose of unbridled Liberal arrogance….

    My Right leaning friends, isn’t is fun and at this point almost comforting – like a tattered stinky old blanket – to be told by some small minded Liberal EXACTLY what your thoughts are?

    I mean, how fucking arrogant and self centered can one be to tell another human what THEY are thinking?

    And then, like clockwork, when called out they will exhibit zero self awareness by doubling down and arguing that THEY – not you – know exactly what YOU mean.

    Unbridled arrogance and a total lack of self awareness….the modern Left today.

  33. Phoenix says:


    You can’t obliterate something that has massively failed already.

    America said it had freedom of speech.

    The government bans TikTok. It’s hilarious.

    Chinese make an app that shows you just how fake you are.

    The insurrection, that was child’s play. More people get killed in Camden on one night.

    The cracks were already there. The melting pot is like the Liberty Bell.

    You are now headed towards “China” type authoritarianism.

    Just watched a video where a pimple faced kid accused a middle age woman at Walmart for stealing something that she had paid for. Shite like that changes you forever.

    People being arrested/ trespassed for things they didn’t do- I am a survivor of that- No I will never forget. It changes you. Especially when it’s tied to a “system” that is supposed to be fair and just.

    America is not that place. It is turning foul. Buckle up, the ride is going to get much harder soon enough.

  34. Phoenix says:

    to be told by some small minded Liberal EXACTLY what your thoughts are?

    Seems to be the trend.

    People knowing what you are thinking and not even close.

    F’m all.

  35. Hold my beer says:


    Women in the far left lane passing the car in the lane in their right and then cutting that car instantly off to get off at the next exit is common here too. And almost every time it happens to me there are no other cars behind me for 100 or more yards.

    And then you have the men who think they’re in a video game.

    And peop

  36. Hold my beer says:


    Do you realize Soros backed groups are the ones funding a lot of these college protests?


  37. Phoenix says:


    Women drivers are much more aggressive than in the past.

    Not driving, but look at this- f’n takes balls.


  38. Fast Eddie says:

    From the British Press:

    “Joe Biden is using a team of “walkers” around him to disguise his shuffling gait from photographers, it has been claimed.

    The US president, 81, has begun walking across the White House lawn surrounded by a group of aides when boarding Marine One, his helicopter.

    Traditionally, presidents approach the helicopter alone to give photographers a clearer shot but Mr. Biden’s team became concerned that footage of him walking alone emphasised his shuffling gait and could worsen concerns about his age.”

    Why don’t they just get a body double for slo joe?

  39. Phoenix says:

    Why don’t they just get a body double for slo joe?

    Because with the internet and cameras they will spot every detail. You won’t get away with it.

    It the post above, they doxxed this woman within minutes. Best quote: TikTok is better than the FBI.

    F’n right it is.

  40. Hold my beer says:


    I see that. And she works for the attorney general office I think

  41. SmallGovConservative says:

    Hold my beer says:
    April 26, 2024 at 12:15 pm
    “Soros backed groups are the ones funding a lot of these college protests”

    One thing that’s clear is that the Dem party has all but abandoned Jews at this point. And as the anti-semitic wing of the party grows, along with the size of the party’s openly anti-semitic constituency, the ‘stickiness’ of Jew support for the Dems is mind-boggling. I can think of no other explanation other than Jews are ‘comfortable’ being victimized; look at the way stooges like ExLax and Lib dismiss, deflect and excuse the behavior of Dems that absolutely hate them — rather than simply switch sides. Truly a “riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma”.

  42. Fast Eddie says:

    “The latest reading of the Fed’s preferred inflation gauge showed prices increased more than Wall Street expected in March.

    The core Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) index, which strips out the cost of food and energy and is closely watched by the Federal Reserve, rose 2.8% over the prior year in March, above estimates for 2.7% and unchanged from the annual increase seen in February.

    Through the first three months of the year, core PCE rose at an annualized pace of 4.4%, a “concerning” trend, per Nationwide senior economist Ben Ayers.

    “The hot inflation readings through March should write off any rate cuts in the first half of 2024,” Ayers wrote in a note on Friday.”

    Now, add the cost of food and energy and tell me where inflation’s at?

  43. No One says:

    In my area of NJ, it seems at least 50% of the Tesla drivers are Indian or Chinese.
    The closest I came to a car accident last year was some younger Indian dude who almost T-boned me in an intersection because he was looking down at something and perhaps thought his “full self driving” [not] Tesla was going to stop the car at a red light for him. It didn’t.
    He looked surprised that when I slammed on my brakes, honked at him, and flipped him off as his car finally stopped right in the center of the intersection.
    I don’t know if he was looking down at his phone or his micropenis.
    Tesla’s seem to be popular with people who stereotypically suck at driving.
    BMWs seem popular with people who think they are good drivers, but often aren’t.

  44. Hold my beer says:

    My son just called me. An aggressive woman hit my parked car and is denying all liability. My kid went to pick up his friend to go the the gym and parked the car on the street across from her driveway, she backed across 2.5 lanes and smashed the left rear quarter panel and bumper of my car. And instead of apologizing and giving my son her insurance info she started screaming at him that it’s his fault and she denies all responsibility. So I’m going over there and will call the police.

    If she mouths off to me I will see if I can file charges for not reporting an accident and leaving the scene. It’s definitely a few thousand in damage.

  45. BRT says:

    In his “Pause” speech, they put a bunch of cardboard signs up front to block him from wandering off stage. Similar strategies are used in containing toddlers.

  46. 3b says:

    Fast: As long as you don’t drive recklessly, you can continue to drive your BMW and be confident that penis issues do not apply to you.

  47. Hold my beer says:


    In the dementia wing of assisted living they use orange nets across doors to keep them from wandering away or setting off emergency alarms

  48. Very Stable Genius says:

    Economists react to Trump possibly curbing Fed’s independence: ‘Bad idea of all bad ideas’
    Published: April 26, 2024 at 11:16 a.m. ET

    “Horrifying. 3rd world, populist garbage.” — James Pethokoukis, senior fellow and DeWitt Wallace chair at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, in a social-media post

  49. Fast Eddie says:

    Fast: As long as you don’t drive recklessly, you can continue to drive your BMW and be confident that penis issues do not apply to you.

    Well, I haven’t received any complaints yet in the boudoir and as for driving, I do tend to punch that gas peddle at times and let the turbo kick in on an open road. So, there’s that. :)

  50. LAX says:

    Eddie & I have a lot in common! Cars, guitars, and wimmen. I have lifelong friendships based on less. I think we are also both “husky” gentlemen who may or may not find difficulty in putting on socks in the morning.

  51. Libturd says:

    Biden threw a surprise interview to Howard Stern today. If he’s in cognitive decline, it’s clearly minor. I only listened to about a half an hour of it. It was pretty boring. All Biden’s family history type of stuff. I’ll listen to the rest of it later today. So far, no hardballs from Howard as you would have expected.

    As to the Construction Yard stunt, he made them aware at 4am yesterday that he was coming. This was hardly a naturally occurring event.

    As for the anti-semitism in Columbia. There are really two protests going on. A peaceful one in the Columbia courtyard, being run by law abiding students. And a second protest, just outside the gates, attended by the same type of morons who could think that breaking down police lines and entering the Capitol Building should not be mistaken as an insurrection. We heard this firsthand from a Jewish, Israel-loving professor that Gator knows quite well.

    I’m not sure what’s going on in this country where a few dumb girls, perhaps even paid to do it, or put up by Zionists yell, “we are Hamas,” and all of a sudden, the party of mean tries to make a near non-issue into a wedge issue. Sorry, but us Jews are simply not as stupid as you.

  52. Hold my beer says:

    Waiting for the po po

  53. TraitorJoe says:

    VSG process again to be a useful idiot. Mentioning the federal reserve in the same breath as “our institutions”. The real threat to our institutions is the weaponized government and this banana republic regime.

  54. TraitorJoe says:

    Personally I’m enjoying watching the campus protests. The woke ideology started there. It’s the snake eating its own tail. They’ve lost so much credibility. Let them burn if that’s what they want.

  55. Fast Eddie says:

    Eddie & I have a lot in common! Cars, guitars, and wimmen.

    Eddie’s a bit thinner than husky but I’ll chalk it up to age being a smidge of an issue when putting socks on in the wee hours. :) I’ll say guitars, women, cigars, an occasional bourbon and race cars are the foundation of my existence. Well, women in a sense that I fantasize about the intricate details and such. I’ll say no more. lol.

  56. SmallGovConservative says:

    Libturd says:
    April 26, 2024 at 2:09 pm
    “…a few dumb girls, perhaps even paid to do it…”

    You mean Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and the rest of the anti-semitic Democrat ‘squad’ that actually run the country? In any case your Dem stooge Baghdad Bob schtick appears to be just that, given that your own kid is safely in school in Fla where DeSantis has already said he’ll steamroll the Jew-hating punks if they get in the way of other kids getting an education — smart.

  57. Fast Eddie says:


    Details required after the fact, please.

  58. No One says:

    San Jose real estate averages over $1mn/unit. Yet the mayor can’t get an interview done without someone attacking his security team.
    Then probably makes sure to not tally the attack as a crime so that they can lie about crime statistics. Mayor’s blonde helper asks a guy to call 911 while some dude slapfights with the mayor’s security guy.

  59. Hold my beer says:

    It was a bottle blonde who yelled at my son. Looks like the hitch in a lifted pick up hit it.

    If she had just given my kid her insurance info it would have only been an inconvenience, but she went all Karen and yelled at a teen so I want official documentation and hopefully camera footage of her hitting the car and driving off. She is apparently very disliked by all the neighbors

  60. No One says:

    Cool cigarette ban called off by Biden team.
    From the WSJ
    “The Biden administration is reversing course after the White House weighed the potential public-health benefits of banning minty smokes against the political risk of angering Black voters.”

    Did Obama call Joe to veto a ban on minty smokes?

  61. Libturd says:


    My kid is as political as a rock. Politics had nothing to do with his decision. By the way, he just landed another scholarship. This was a special one as he was a solo winner. Only $1,000 but decently prestigious. It’s nice to have him home.

  62. Juice Box says:

    Lib – craploads of astroturfing going on with Columbia and other schools, and the leadership of all of it is Democrats. There are no Republicans chanting river to the sea or claiming to be terrorists.

    So some Soros might be paying. Who knows where the professional agitators are coming from.

  63. Hold my beer says:

    No One

    That cop needs a refresher on self defense. Looked like 2 guys who want to look tough in front of their drunk friends but not really fight.

  64. Hold my beer says:

    I had a run in with a Karen at a grocery store Monday afternoon. A bottle blonde gets in line behind me at the register, realizes she left her coupon folder in the car, tells her kid to hold the spot while she gets it. The kid looked like he was an interrupted abortion. Had a big dent in his temple like they stuck the needle in there to vacuum out his brain and called it off.

    Anyway. I start bagging my stuff. Karen walks over and stands next to the key pad. I see over $200 total which is way too much for my order and a bunch of groceries that aren’t mine. Karen didn’t bother to put one of those little barriers up. I told the cashier these aren’t mine. Cashier apologies and said she thought we were together. I start handing the stuff that’s not mine to the cashier to get taken off my bill and Karen just stands there giving me a dirty look. She then huffs and walks past me to retrieve a giant plastic jug of cat litter that I hadn’t handed back yet.

    WTF is wrong with people today?

  65. Libturd says:

    Watch that video I posted earlier. It explains everything.

  66. BRT says:

    clearly minor, we have way more evidence to the contrary. You know, sometimes I talk to my sister and she acts normal. And I’m like, wow, maybe she’s not crazy. Then the next 3 weeks she proves otherwise.

  67. Very Stable Genius says:

    College students protesting war and old people crying over it.

    A tale as old as time.

  68. Very Stable Genius says:

    Some of the largest and most coordinated sequences of protests in the US occurred in May 1970, uniting over a million students from more than 880 campuses in a powerful display of solidarity that included walkouts and other disruptive actions, calling for the end of war.

  69. BRT says:

    Yeah but they didn’t practice open racism while doing it

  70. Hold my beer says:

    Well the police came. Listened to my son and his friend, looked at the damage. Knocked on car Karen’s door. She denied knowing anything about it. He told her everyone has a camera on this street and that amount of damage is a felony hit and run. Suddenly she would check with her husband and daughter. Cop relayed what she said and I asked the cop how could she see a dent the size of her hand from 70 feet away annd you can’t see the gap where the bumper and rear panel meet unless you’re a few feet from it. and why would she take pictures of it and deny all responsibility. The rear panel and rear bumper also have about a 1/4” gap.

    The cop was talking to us and Karen emerges with 18-20 year old daughter. Karen claimed she didn’t even know the daughter was home. Daughter confessed she hit the car last night and told her mom about it and asked mom what to do. Cop chewed both of them out telling them they both adults and should know better and points out I could press charges if I wanted.

    I told the cop If she had threatened my kid or hubby had come out wearing a gun I would press charges, but since it’s a kid with a lousy mom I just want the car fixed. Cop filed an incident report and got us karens insurance info.

    I filed a claim through geico’s app. Then called to ask what’s the next step. Told the rep what happened. Rep said don’t be surprised if Karen disputed the claim. I said well if she does and makes me pay deductible I will just contact the nice officer and file charges.

    The cop told us if the people involved in an accident just exchange insurance in for the police don’t have to be contacted unless someone is injured. And if you hit a parked car you can just leave your name and number on the car and you’re covered from a bit and run charge. All Karen had to do was tell my son what happened and give her insurance info or give the infor and offer to pay cash if it’s only a few hundred and call insurance over a certain amount. He seemed to think mom was a pos too.

  71. Libturd says:


    Been there multiple times. People are generally assholes.

  72. 3b says:

    Lib: I love ya man, but I think you are in denial about Dems and anti Semitic.

  73. Juice Box says:

    re: “just exchange insurance in for the police don’t have to be contacted unless someone is injured”

    We learned this in driving school, if you can pull the car off road and exchange insurance etc.

    All I ever see however is people who had a minor fender bender stopped in the fast lane, standing outside their car in traffic with the cell phone glued to their head calling every friend or family they have and pretty oblivions to the danger they are in by standing on the roadway.

  74. Hold my beer says:


    Karen yelling at my kid and his buddy for her kid’s mistake really bothered me.

    Felt sorry for her kid being raised by that awful person.

    Since my son drives my 16 year old Santa Fe that has peeling paint and looks like a hooptie she probably thought my kid was poor and easy to bluff. I want him to have the old school college experience and drive a beater car that’s reliable and work part time for his spending money. looked up their house on Zillow and our house is more valuable.

  75. Libturd says:

    I hear you both.

    3b, I have very thick skin. I am also not a big fan of Israel and some of their politics.

    My take on Israel is that the Jews needed a place to go after half the tribe was wiped out. Israel would have gladly shared the land and its riches, just like they would stop fighting if Haas released the hostages and laid down their weapons. The Palestinians brought there current situation on themselves. If Israel could make peace with Egypt and was willing to return the oil-rich Negev and the equally valuable control over the Suez canal. Then, peace with the Palestinians was always possible and still is. But it will never happen. Especially with Bibby in power. At this point, it’s dismantle as much of Gaza as is possible time which should delay the next onslaught of rockets for as long as possible. Gaza does not know genocide and neither do these dumb kids.

    I had a nice talk with my older son yesterday about it. I told him he hasn’t been on the planet long enough to understand war. As usual, I told him he is free to think what he wants, but with time comes wisdom. As for the anti-semetic words, I think there is plenty of sympathy by the vast majority. I know it exists. I’ve witnessed it first-hand, mostly among poorer people who are always looking for someone to blame for their own misery. But I’m not yet concerned for my wellbeing or for the well-being of Jews on campus’. I think the whole thing is blowing over anyway.

  76. Chicago says:

    Yeah it will blow over. That is what German Jews said 85 years ago

    Libturd says:
    April 26, 2024 at 10:01 pm
    But I’m not yet concerned for my wellbeing or for the well-being of Jews on campus’. I think the whole thing is blowing over anyway.


  77. 3b says:

    Lib: I don’t think it’s blowing over. As for Bibi, I agree he is not the best person to negotiate a peace with the Palestinians. However, there have been attempts in the past before Bibi, all the way back to the Oslo accords with Clinton and Arafat. Arafat in the end would not pull the trigger. Hamas and others do not want peace, they want the destruction of Israel.

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