Monopoly for Millennials is making them mad

Given the weather and hellacious afternoon commute in store for us, I thought I’d post something entertaining. From Fortune:

Millennials Tell Hasbro Just How Insulting ‘Monopoly for Millennials’ Really Is

Hasbro has released a new game, “Monopoly for Millennials,” and it’s getting some blowback from the very demographic the game is supposedly meant to entertain.

The game’s rules and cover art all play up stereotypes the age group is known for.

The box for the game shows Mr. Monopoly taking a selfie, wearing headphones and a participation medal and holding a coffee. The taglines read: “Forget real estate, you can’t afford it anyway,” and “Adulting is hard. You deserve a break from the rat race!” Rather than win by collecting the most money, the game prompts players to collect experiences—including visiting a friend’s couch, going to a vegan bistro, and hitting a week-long meditation retreat. Game pieces include a hashtag and crying emoji.

Though some people are amused by the game, others found the mockery infuriating and took to Twitter to express their irritation.

Many people expressed their annoyance by taking a jab at Baby Boomers.

Can you provide the URL for the Hasbro-official website featuring “Monopoly for Millennials,” where you trash on my age demographic because baby boomers caused an economic catastrophe that rendered us financially impotent for a decade? Thanks!

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154 Responses to Monopoly for Millennials is making them mad

  1. The Original NJ ExPay says:

    I was stuck in traffic yesterday, midday, listening to the radio and heard about the “new” monopoly for millennials on the radio. The whole premise sounded ridiculous. I heard that it actually says on the box, “recommended that you play in your parents basement”

  2. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I have a really nice Mac Mini I haven’t used in about 18 months, dual monitors, pretty fast given it is a few years old. Just lack of going through moving stuff, etc. I’ve mostly used my Surface Pro and iPad in the interim. I’m surprised I still have the muscle memory to “Mac”, but it’s pretty enjoyable.

  3. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    grim – still have the Mac in the kitchen?

  4. D-FENS says:

    My guess is a Generation X themed monopoly would be too depressing.

  5. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    I think they rename the whole Monopoly enterprise, “Amazon.”

  6. Bystander says:

    Dfens,

    One of the pieces would be Cobain with half a head.

    Grim,

    Regarding scam, one of favorite movies from 20 years ago “A Simple Plan”. Three not so bright people find money and it devolves from there. It is so true about nature of people when money gets involved.

  7. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Somebody here swore this was an inside job. You were right.

    Pretty much everything for a charity cause on GoFundMe is a scam by default. A year or two ago, I literally drove by an accident on 78 where a police officer on his way to Summit to run the dare program was killed because some guy came flying across the median into him like a missile. I felt awful because it’s my worst fear given the pyschotic driving that goes on on 78. Turns out, he was a neighbor of a former coworker of mine and had two young kids. I wanted to donate a small amount of money but it was a gofundme. I have no idea who’s running it or if the money even makes it to them.

  8. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    My surface pro 3 is 3.5 years and still running in tip top shape. I’m actually quite surprised the battery still kicks the way it does. Might get a new one soon. Definitely a fantastic product.

  9. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Sf is known to be a boom or bust town. I think this time is different. Those prices are reflective of a power industry in a concentrated area. I can’t see them busting 50% unless the tech giants leave that area (not happening when apple just created huge new campus). Do you really see tech dying? Hell no. They are the future of our economy. So we can have this recession and pull back, it will be a slight buying opportunity, but these tech giants will continue to own our economy. I’m just glad they are spreading out to the nyc market.

    Moral of the story, those housing prices are not reflective of a bubble. They are reflective of a highly paid workforce that is not going to see their paychecks lowered or eliminated any time soon.

    leftwing says:
    November 14, 2018 at 5:36 pm
    “This is what 2.2 million gets you now, a late 60’s ranch…..”

    Classic end of cycle pricing. Hitting the end of a record economic and market run mostly driven by tech the vast majority of which is in a 20 mile corridor that encompasses this property.

    Most stock options written since Spring 2017 in that area are back at par from huge paper gains. Another leg down in the market and these people realize that paper wealth is not for real until cashed out. Housing then comes back in line.

    Easy to write big checks when it’s monopoly money. When you actually need to pony up real dollars for the houses on Boardwalk, different story.

  10. Simon says:

    BRT,

    Officer Tarentino was my sons Dare Officer. In this particular case, the go fund me was legit.

    Thanks

  11. Huh? says:

    Why is Jack Ma’s face so small? Looks like someone did a face swap with a baby.

  12. Bystander says:

    Tell me that RE is not f-ed. The nations largest loan originator has now called Fairfield county distressed and basically does not want to do business there. Or in Blumpkins warped mind, area is so wealthy that extra 5% is just premium for NYCs awesome shadow.

    Wells Fargo & Co. raised its required down payment for homebuyers in Connecticut’s Fairfield County to 25 percent from the standard 20 percent after it categorized the area as distressed.

  13. Bruiser says:

    Monopoly For Millennials is making the snowflakes melt. The rest of us find it highly amusing and it is an instant classic.

  14. Bystander says:

    And before idiot responds, this is about lack of jobs being created in the state, level of state debt, orange morons tax ‘hit job’on area, wages stagnating for most people and rising interest rates. Bergen County is next. Wells is basically seeing major recession ahead and wants protection. This impacts 20% of market. No warning..insane.

  15. JCer says:

    bystander, the mysterious drop in oil price yesterday indicates some major people in the markets are worried. Oil is the lifeblood of the economy unless supply drastically changes it’s movements would be tied to expectations for industrial growth.

    The middle class suburbs in CT and NJ suffer from the same problems. A state full of urban ghetto, a “Progressive” government who spends in those areas leaving a tax unfriendly place which is not conducive for business(the preferred urban environment is a burned out hole, rather than vibrant and the tax climate isn’t good either). So now you are left with an expensive place, with high taxes dependent on the finance industry to provide high incomes to justify the cost. Banks aren’t hiring anymore, it’s all H1B low cost consultants, that puts stress on housing in the suburbs, the bankers are still making bank it us drones who are under more pressure.

  16. joyce says:

    tax ‘hit job’on area

    The SALT tax provision, like all provisions, a deduction for some a loophole for others.

  17. Fast Eddie says:

    Game pieces include a hashtag and crying emoji.

    LMAO!! Omg!

  18. Bystander says:

    As usual, spot on JCer. Some headlines on my IBs intranet recently. CEO says that tech changes so fast that we won’t value experience anymore, only skill. Next, article is about configurator successes and we all need to engage. Writing is on wall. We don’t want workers anymore, only elite tech guns from Asia.

  19. Yo! says:

    Hudson County high end holding up. 2 recent sales of note:

    October 2018 price: $2,375,000
    2013 price: $1,550,000

    September 2018 price: $2,900,000
    2017 price: $2,700,000

    Burbs seeing similar price action?

  20. JCer says:

    Bystander it’s about cheap. I’m on a BIG project(250M dollar technology build) where the client is a big bank. They all want to outsource. Most of our US based resources were employed by big banks and are now working for peanuts as consultants. My company laid off experience people prior to the start of this project.

  21. Phoenix says:

    Stu,
    Yeah that was the photo. Thanks for the laugh.

  22. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You wanted cheap real estate, right?

    Bystander says:
    November 15, 2018 at 10:29 am
    Tell me that RE is not f-ed. The nations largest loan originator has now called Fairfield county distressed and basically does not want to do business there. Or in Blumpkins warped mind, area is so wealthy that extra 5% is just premium for NYCs awesome shadow.

    Wells Fargo & Co. raised its required down payment for homebuyers in Connecticut’s Fairfield County to 25 percent from the standard 20 percent after it categorized the area as distressed.

  23. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I have said it on here before, and I’ll say it again. The concentration of money is at epic levels, and they are manipulating the market. The big dogs have decided that a recession is coming. They are pulling out of everything and it’s for no reason other than to rob the common man of their money. That’s the beauty of the stock market and all markets in general, they feed of the working class man. They create self induced recessions, sell before everyone else, create panic, and then buy back in during the panic. It’s immoral and unethical, but this is the game they will consistently play, and the common man is the fool that gets taken advantage of.

    There is absolutely no reason we should continue this ridiculous boom and bust pattern. It’s pathetic. You know it, and I know it. It doesn’t have to be this way. Yes, if you are smart, you can make money off these boom and busts too, but in the big picture, it hurts the majority of people for a few to make massive gains.

    JCer says:
    November 15, 2018 at 11:07 am
    bystander, the mysterious drop in oil price yesterday indicates some major people in the markets are worried. Oil is the lifeblood of the economy unless supply drastically changes it’s movements would be tied to expectations for industrial growth.

  24. Bystander says:

    Yes, joyce, now a giant loophole for corporate real estate moguls and a f* job to NY middle class

  25. Bart says:

    Figure Technologies, startup doing sale / leaseback of residential properties.

    https://www.housingwire.com/articles/47411-figure-technologies-debuts-sale-lease-back-product

  26. The Great Pumpkin says:

    These are the people every working man and woman gave a huge tax break(aka huge sums of their own money) to in order to create jobs? YUP, got damn scammers! They are traitors and should be hung.

    JCer says:
    November 15, 2018 at 11:37 am
    Bystander it’s about cheap. I’m on a BIG project(250M dollar technology build) where the client is a big bank. They all want to outsource. Most of our US based resources were employed by big banks and are now working for peanuts as consultants. My company laid off experience people prior to the start of this project.

  27. texting says:

    Interesting comment from your CEO. Wake up call fro guys in tech

    Bystander says:
    November 15, 2018 at 11:25 am
    As usual, spot on JCer. Some headlines on my IBs intranet recently. CEO says that tech changes so fast that we won’t value experience anymore, only skill. Next, article is about configurator successes and we all need to engage. Writing is on wall. We don’t want workers anymore, only elite tech guns from Asia.

  28. joyce says:

    The tax “reform” bill was anything but reform… but getting rid of deductions is a good thing. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

    Bystander says:
    November 15, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    Yes, joyce, now a giant loophole for corporate real estate moguls and a f* job to NY middle class

  29. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Simon,

    Wish I knew it at the time. Thanks for the info.

  30. Bruiser says:

    Corporations using their tax break ca$hola to buy back their own stock, because that is the prudent thing to do when you view your only purpose is to increase shareholder value, not actually run & improve the underlying business ops. It’s enough to make us all puke.

  31. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The much-anticipated announcement will mean that only tobacco, mint and menthol e-cigarette flavors can be sold at most traditional retail outlets such as convenience stores. Other fruity- or sweet-flavored varieties can now only be sold at age-restricted stores or through online merchants that use age-verification checks.

    The FDA also plans to seek a ban on menthol cigarettes, a longtime goal of public health advocates, as well as flavored cigars. FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb said the moves are meant to prevent young people from continuing to use e-cigarettes, potentially leading to traditional cigarette smoking.

    “I will not allow a generation of children to become addicted to nicotine through e-cigarettes,” Gottlieb said.

    You’re too late dude. They are all already addicted. Altria (Phillip Morris) took a dip today on the news. I’ve held it and bought into it for 8 years straight. Great dividend payments. No amount of laws is going to stop kids from smoking e-cigs at this point. We have teachers stationed everywhere during lunch to try to stop the vape fest. It’s impossible.

  32. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Might be time to take the Summer tires off the 6.

  33. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    word to the wise, stay off the roads right now. They are bad. My Honda Civic couldn’t grip to the road at all. People at my son’s elementary school were all stuck on the hill. Listening to 1015 now, the traffic reports are horrendous.

  34. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Gas is at low, and you have this. Why do the big shots want to take down the economy by abandoning their positions? Why? No one should have so much money that they can derail the stock market with their positions. Such bs!

    “Small business optimism setting a new record with the need for employees hitting a 45-year high.”

  35. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Economy is damn strong, just get the big shots to stop trying to derail it with their bs that THEY THINK A RECESSION IS COMING, SO LETS ACT ON IT. Creating a self fulfilling prophecy.

  36. texting says:

    Pumpkin, Economy is really strong.. Check this in 2006

    Home > News & Policies > May 2006
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    For Immediate Release
    Office of the Press Secretary
    May 3, 2006

    President Bush Discusses Strong and Growing U.S. Economy
    Grand Hyatt Hotel
    Washington, D.C.

    Play Video Video (Real)
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    Fact sheet Fact Sheet: Growing Our Economy: Keeping Taxes Low and Restraining Spending
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    11:25 A.M. EDT

    THE PRESIDENT: Thanks for the warm welcome. Thanks for inviting me. (Laughter.) I was looking for something to do this morning. (Laughter.) I’m really thrilled to be here. I thank you, Mr. Chairman, for letting me come by. I’ve got something to talk to you about, about the economy. What I’m really thrilled is, is that the American Council of Engineering Companies would allow a history major to come by to speak to you. (Laughter.)

    https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/05/20060503-4.html

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/31/AR2007013100422.html?referrer=email

  37. 1987 condo says:

    Ugh…forecast upped to 6-8 inches, roads are a mess

  38. Juice Box says:

    Roads are a mess and the trees look like they are going to snap by me..

  39. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    Roads are pretty bad. Very slippery. But still successfully picked up my son from school (4 mile round trip) with Michelin Pilot Sports. I think I hit a top speed of 17 mph at one stretch. Our main road through town was backed up the entire length of time. I took all side roads where few had driven for grip.

  40. grim says:

    At least 4 inches already in Wayne, because we’re better than you.

  41. grim says:

    Did I hear right? 280 is closed?

  42. xolepa says:

    At least 6-7 inches here in Hunterdon. Because we are the BEST.

  43. xolepa says:

    sometimes it’s good to be retired

    …and still have renters pay your bills

  44. 1987 Condo says:

    Waze confirms all lanes closed 280..icing

  45. 1987 Condo says:

    280 closed East bound

  46. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Too bad you can’t figure out that this is, by far, is your greatest character flaw…if you don’t think what I say is true, you are ignorant. Lack of intellectual honesty is a close second, btw.

    I have said it on here before, and I’ll say it again.

  47. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Weird year. I think it was only two weeks ago that my landlords told me I could use the same lawn and leaf guy as last year and deduct it from the rent and I told them the leaves hadn’t fallen. Two days later rain and high winds brought them all down. I’ve always put Winter tires on right after Thanksgiving. It still amazes me how three season tires get hard below 35 degrees and Winter tires get hard above 50 degrees.

    Might be time to take the Summer tires off the 6.

  48. Walking bye says:

    I’m 12 miles by car to work. Decided to take the train Pascack valley line home today. It’s actually a very nice ride. Though trying to figure out how to buy a ticket was confusing

  49. Walking bye says:

    Let me clarify, confusing when under pressure because you see the train light in the distance. But NJ transit was nice enough to be delayed 15 minutes as it waited on the sideline for the oncoming train to pass. Delays are good no?

  50. 3b says:

    Walking bye: it’s a nice ride when it’s on time! I have been taking it for years and the service has gotten awful!!

  51. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Next year I may take a job in the heart of Boston. At our current home, we are literally just inside Boston’s city limits, and also near a commuter rail stop. I haven’t done the white collar rail commute since I lived in Long Island over 20 years ago. I’ve never even been on a Boston commuter line, only bus and “T” (subway and trolley). Interestingly, my two teenagers have much more experience with the commuter rail than I do. Since Boston Latin issues them a “One Pass”, all of public transportation is their oyster. They sometimes take the commuter rail for various important reasons, such as great pizza at one end and gigantic sugary slushies at the other end. Target and the dollar store also figure in. Sometimes they go the other way and shop at Primark in Boston, or meet their friends to go to the movies.

    When I grew up in the Jersey we had nothing in the burbs, but at least there were lots of kids. I feel sorry for Pumps lonely child. The best she can hope for is hearing stories at school about kids having fun. Can you imagine her shock and horror when she hears tale of kids playing in the street?

  52. Mike S says:

    took me 1 hour 45 to go 2 miles. turned around, 9 min back to the office. hope i dont sleep here.

  53. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Brt,

    For you.

    “Doctors Are Fed Up With Being Turned Into Debt Collectors”

    https://apple.news/Apj-qnKVKT5qEMil9ZJMgFQ

  54. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Ahh, are we really associating mastery of communication with overall intelligence? Really? Go ask Einstein’s teachers how that worked out. I’m sorry I’m not an expert at the English language, guess that makes me dumb. If you say so.

    The Original NJ ExPat says:
    November 15, 2018 at 5:30 pm
    Too bad you can’t figure out that this is, by far, is your greatest character flaw…if you don’t think what I say is true, you are ignorant. Lack of intellectual honesty is a close second, btw.

    I have said it on here before, and I’ll say it again.

  55. The Great Pumpkin says:

    For sure, but this time is different. It’s not out of control speculation in any investment. It’s a bunch of people scared to invest (just like yourself in housing)because the boogeyman said a recession is coming.

    texting says:
    November 15, 2018 at 4:03 pm
    Pumpkin, Economy is really strong.. Check this in 2006

  56. The Great Pumpkin says:

    These same talking heads have been calling an end to this bull market for at least 6 years now. Guess eventually they will be correct.

  57. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    lol, now you are comparing yourself to Einstein? Einstein’s teachers? He independently proved the pythagorean theorem himself at age 12 with no prior instruction. A family friend gave him a geometry book and basically verified he was a genius by age 13 after he taught himself calculus. And Einstein was a brilliant communicator, one who could come up with a theory that entirely turned Isaac’s Newton’s life work upside down and have it almost immediately universally accepted.

  58. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Yup, makes no sense. I guess the market has to take a breather and stagnate till the consumer catches up.

    “These should be happy times for the housing sector. The economy is booming, with more people working at higher pay, and with the sizable millennial generation reaching prime home buying age.

    Instead, the housing market has gone soft, acting as a drag on the overall economy rather than as a force propelling it forward.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/upshot/housing-market-slumping-despite-booming-economy.html

  59. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    One of the reason’s we have an illusion of healthcare costs being out of control is that doctor’s overbill by 1000%, send you to collection for nonpayment, and collect pennies on the fake dollar amount they charged. When I was 20, I busted by knee up and went to the ER. They billed me out something like 12 to $14k. I settled out for $150 by offering them cash and were happy to do so.

  60. The Great Pumpkin says:

    How long have I said this? This was one of my leading factors in making all my calls.

    “There’s no doubt that demographics are favorable for housing demand. The peak birth year for millennials was 1990; it’s a group that is turning 28 this year and thus entering prime years for home buying. As it happens, 28 is exactly the median response in a Bankrate survey that asked adults for the ideal age to buy a home.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/upshot/housing-market-slumping-despite-booming-economy.html

  61. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Over your head, prob due to my terrible communication skills. Wasn’t comparing myself to Einstein, was simply pointing out that one of the smartest human beings was considered retarded because of his communication skills. Don’t judge a book by one chapter.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    November 15, 2018 at 7:18 pm
    lol, now you are comparing yourself to Einstein? Einstein’s teachers? He independently proved the pythagorean theorem himself at age 12 with no prior instruction. A family friend gave him a geometry book and basically verified he was a genius by age 13 after he taught himself calculus. And Einstein was a brilliant communicator, one who could come up with a theory that entirely turned Isaac’s Newton’s life work upside down and have it almost immediately universally accepted.

  62. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Getting a bunch of text messages about snowmagedon. One guy left Long Island at 2:30 and at gwb now.

    Another one sent a video of port authority bus terminal and it’s ugly.

    Most that left manhattan at 3 are on rt46 now.

  63. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    LOL When I was 16 years old my co-workers used to call me Einstein. My guess is that has never been your nickname.

    Pumps – you’re an expert at three things:
    1. Saying the same thing over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.
    2. Seeking recognition that your father never gave you.
    3. Being a shitty Dad, because you’d rather spend your time seeking the recognition of those who hate you over spending any time with your daughter. I guess the rotten apple doesn’t fall far from the rotten tree.

    Ahh, are we really associating mastery of communication with overall intelligence? Really? Go ask Einstein’s teachers how that worked out. I’m sorry I’m not an expert at the English language, guess that makes me dumb. If you say so.

  64. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    I fail to see the comparison. You are comparing yourself to a 9 year old.

  65. texting says:

    Pumpkin, ever heard of the word ‘Confirmation Bias’ ??

    The Great Pumpkin says:
    November 15, 2018 at 7:10 pm
    For sure, but this time is different. It’s not out of control speculation in any investment. It’s a bunch of people scared to invest (just like yourself in housing)because the boogeyman said a recession is coming.

  66. 3b says:

    Except there ain’t a whole lot of 28 year olds buying houses in Bergen Co. I was 28 and already had the house and one child just like all my friends and relatives at the time. That ain’t happening today.

  67. The Original NJ ExPat says:

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    I fail to see the comparison. You are comparing yourself to a 9 year old.

  68. Grim says:

    This is a real headline:

    Port Authority closes doors, thousands told to find another way home as roads remain icy nightmares

  69. Grim says:

    Not a single highway was salted or sprayed by 1pm.

  70. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I was in my mid-20’s when I saw that changing. We were still buying RE, sometimes alone, sometimes with GF’s, sometimes with friends as investments. Some people were getting married, but white collar guys and gals were starting to not have kids in their 20’s circa 1987. I held out the longest, not getting married until I was 40. At our wedding there were only 2 single adults, and they started dating after meeting at our reception.

    Except there ain’t a whole lot of 28 year olds buying houses in Bergen Co. I was 28 and already had the house and one child just like all my friends and relatives at the time. That ain’t happening today.

  71. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    New definition of a stolen election: Democrat did not win.

    Corollary: The only fair elections are those that Democrats win.

    Supporting Theorems:

    1. Only Democrat Voters are Suppressed
    2. Dead People and No Shows and Illegals Never Vote Democrat
    3. All New “Discovered” Votes are for Democrats

  72. xolepa says:

    Grim,
    You are incorrect.

    I was traveling on 78 Eastbound over Jugtown mountain yesterday afternoon when I met a convoy going in the same direction spraying the anti-skid stuff in the left-most lane. I passed it using the right most lane and it still sooted up my windshield. Sprayed that baby clean, though.

  73. xolepa says:

    A lot of towns here use private entities (landscaper types) to supplement their plowing. No private guys were prepared for this, expecting maybe an inch or so..no need to attach a plow. I was on 31 this morning, not a single vehicle with a plow attached.

    That contributed to the problem.

    I don’t think my private plower will touch my driveway tonight/tomorrow. He is still in grasscutting/cleanup mode. Looks like about 8 inches minimum with rain/ice falling on top of that

  74. D-FENS says:

    4 1/2 hours on the road. BTW, Christie is now trolling Murphy on Twitter.

  75. joyce says:

    I agree with your concept, but… Total healthcare costs are, and have been for decades, rising materially faster than inflation.

    Blue Ribbon Teacher says:
    November 15, 2018 at 7:21 pm
    One of the reason’s we have an illusion of healthcare costs being out of control is that doctor’s overbill by 1000%, send you to collection for nonpayment, and collect pennies on the fake dollar amount they charged. When I was 20, I busted by knee up and went to the ER. They billed me out something like 12 to $14k. I settled out for $150 by offering them cash and were happy to do so.

  76. D-FENS says:

    Bought a base model Impreza in February. Their AWD is unstoppable. Worth every penny.

  77. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    I gave my girlfriend my throwaway race tires for Summer use on her 4wd turbo Subaru (with airbag suspension, press for 2″ more ground clearance) in the late 80’s. Obviously we needed Winter tires after that. Holy crap! Rally driving is fun! I used to pass 15 cars at a clip during snowstorms in the opposing traffic lane on Route 515! Conti Contacts.

  78. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “New Jersey’s unemployment rate fell to 4.1 percent in October, the lowest it’s been in almost two decades”

    https://apple.news/AR8JzMZWRSvCo50GsEDnG6A

  79. JCer says:

    Seriously bad commute. The state should be ashamed, 280 was closed, it took 3 hrs to get from Weehawken to Jersey City and then 4hrs from Jersey City to Maplewood. I will say this Orange, West Orange, South Orange and Maplewood did ok, the main roads were all plowed, no visible ice or snow. 280 a major artery between NJ’s biggest cities hadn’t seen a plow or salt. The governor messed up when the snow really started falling at 1pm he needed to declare the state of emergency.

    Christie has every right to troll Murphy, say what you will but at least he didn’t totally botch snowstorm preparations and then tell people to remain calm and they’ll get home eventually. Seriously this governor is making Corzine look competent. Jersey city/Newark got 3-4 inches of snow, that should not cause what we saw, they were unprepared, further west we got 6-8in, but still this storm should have been under control.

  80. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Wow! Substantial snow fall here in Boston, and I haven’t even had my yard and leaf guy here yet. Smart neighbors had their yards done yesterday.

  81. grim says:

    Heart-attack snow conditions this morning. Heavy snow, ice covered, deep. Seems like ice on top and on bottom.

    Still a mix of ice and snow falling here in Wayne, it’s ugly outside. Roads are a sheet of ice.

  82. D-FENS says:

    https://twitter.com/jessieboyington/status/1063366238477398016?s=21

    BREAKING: I-78 WB is CLOSED between exits 75 & 71…. and this time not because of an accident, but GET THIS.. drivers have fallen asleep and run out of gas while waiting for an accident to clear that happened during the evening commute YESTERDAY! @NBCPhiladelphia

  83. grim says:

    What a clusterfuck of mismanagement.

  84. 1987 Condo says:

    The Lindsay Snowstorm…..

    I was 7 in Staten Island, we never got plowed anyway, but messing with Queens? That is a different story…

    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/blizzard-political-storm-mayor-lindsay-article-1.816098

  85. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    A lot of towns here use private entities (landscaper types) to supplement their plowing. No private guys were prepared for this, expecting maybe an inch or so..no need to attach a plow. I was on 31 this morning, not a single vehicle with a plow attached.

    That contributed to the problem.

    I don’t think my private plower will touch my driveway tonight/tomorrow. He is still in grasscutting/cleanup mode. Looks like about 8 inches minimum with rain/ice falling on top of that

    I saw this coming from a mile away. The forecast for the town I work in was snow showers followed by freezing rain. I monitored the temperature predictions in every town. What I saw was that most of the 78 corridor heading south was supposed to be 33 degrees so, theoretically, no freezing rain. But anything North of that did not look good. Turns out, that tiny margin of error meant the entire state was just screwed because it was frozen everywhere.

    I opted to not risk my life on the road yesterday and it was the right decision. Just picking up my son from his elementary school yesterday which is 5 blocks away was an adventure.

  86. The Original NJ ExPat says:

    Can’t believe the kids have school. Usually they cancel early and often in Boston because the bus drivers don’t show. Never affects my kids because they don’t take yellow buses anymore, school just gives them all transit cards.

  87. grim says:

    No school here, was snowing like crazy a few minutes ago.

  88. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It’s not Murphy’s fault. The ground temps were high when it first started smowing. That’s what made driving impossible. It created icy conditions. No one knew it would be this bad. Throw in the fact that there are a ton of idiots that can’t drive. Mother Nature easily won this battle.

  89. The Great Pumpkin says:

    And for Fatman to be trolling Murphy on this is disgusting. The guy that purposefully created a 3 day traffic jam in fort lee has the nerve to troll Murphy? What a f’n jerk off.

  90. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Want to help traffic congestion in nj….make the driving test realistic to get your license. Too many old people, Indians, and Asians in general that can’t drive if their life depended on it. Esp the ones driving a Toyota Corolla.

  91. grim says:

    The guy that purposefully created a 3 day traffic jam in fort lee has the nerve to troll Murphy?

    If you have some evidence, please sent it to the Attorney General.

    As I recall, the legislature spent millions attempting to implicate Christie in the scandal, only to have found no evidence thereof.

    Frankly, Christie is too smart to have attempted that kind of idiotic stunt.

    There rest of NJ’s politicians, probably not as smart as Christie.

  92. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Let people go home if snow is in the forecast, that’s the problem. Why were so many people forced to work the entire day?

  93. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Evidence? Under his watch, there was a 3 day traffic nightmare created that he did nothing about. All the evidence I need. Even if he had nothing to do with it, how did you let it go for 3 days?

    grim says:
    November 16, 2018 at 8:31 am
    The guy that purposefully created a 3 day traffic jam in fort lee has the nerve to troll Murphy?

    If you have some evidence, please sent it to the Attorney General.

  94. grim says:

    Let people go home if snow is in the forecast, that’s the problem. Why were so many people forced to work the entire day?

    Because employers look to the state leadership to provide direction in emergent situations. This is exactly the point of declaring a state of emergency.

  95. chicagofinance says:

    We got off pretty scot-free down here……. most of the snow is melting…. it was bad for a few hours yesterday PM….. virtually all blacktop on roads, mostly grassy patches off roads…..

    Glad I flew back to NJ Wed PM not Thurs PM.

  96. grim says:

    Murphy dismissed the state at 2:30pm.

    However, Murphy and the rest of the mayors and municipal administration were too busy partying its up in AC yesterday to have looked outside to notice.

    Surprised at the lack of municipal coordination as well? This is likely the case.

  97. 1987 Condo says:

    Grim, that is it, the Convention! I was wondering why I did not see any town trucks around, usually they are on the ball, but that explains it.

  98. 1987 Condo says:

    Need ideas for leak detection and prevention.

    The other day, while asleep, basement pipe burst (corrosion) and I ended up with 3 inches water.

    I am looking for recommendation on the “remote/local” sensors as well as prevention devices such as:

    https://waterheroinc.com/p100leakdetectionautoshutoff/

    Thoughts? Thanks!

  99. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The other thing, it was rush hour traffic. How would plows drive around? 🤔

    It was a recipe for disaster that no one could have prevented. Ny roads were just as bad, and that has nothing to do with nj govt.

  100. 3b says:

    Ex Pat: I can’t say when it started to change but it certainly has since I was that age and it’s not really that long ago. Delayed marriage or not marrying at all delaying having children or one and done or none at all. Very different from late 80s early 90s. Someone here believes that now all millenials stuffed with cash are going to go out and buy houses in the suburbs. Will some? Of course. A stampede to the suburbs? No. I don’t see it. It’s a changed world.

  101. NJCoast says:

    What snow? Just rain here.

  102. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    ” No one knew it would be this bad.”

    I did as did the weather geeks who I follow. This was supposed to be 1-3″ with the possibility of 5″ in all areas west of the city and east of 287. 7″ were worst case scenario. I have a very close friend who owns a landscaping business and he spent the entire night Wednesday putting the plows on the truck when the NWS said there would be 1″. HOW’D HE KNOW? Because he didn’t depend on public workers for his info. The reason this was such a mess is because the plows in almost all communities were never installed. Who would ever think there could be a plowable event this early? Of course, the familiar lament. WE DIDN’T KNOW was heard all across the the land of the public sector.

  103. grim says:

    Also explains why Murphy didn’t call a state of emergency, it would have meant cancelling his big speech yesterday afternoon.

  104. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    The other thing, it was rush hour traffic. How would plows drive around? 🤔

    It was a recipe for disaster that no one could have prevented. Ny roads were just as bad, and that has nothing to do with nj govt.

    This storm was manageable. My town did a great job of clearing the roads in real time. Was there still issues? Yes. But they were out and about and ready to go. They always are. Meanwhile, neighboring Princeton was a disaster.

  105. Juice Box says:

    Mu sump pump failed last night. :( about an inch of water in the basement.

    I guess it gives me a reason to toss out all the old toys the kids no longer use.

  106. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Plows or salt, it wouldn’t matter. You had freezing temperatures combined with 40 degree ground temps when snow started. Recipe for ice and terrible driving conditions.

    Roads in my area were pretreated, plowed, and salted….still terrible.

  107. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    There was a rain storm 5 or 6 years ago where they didn’t brine anywhere and it was an immediate sheet of ice that developed while cars were flying up and down the turnpike. It was a nightmare. They didn’t anticipate the drop in temperature. I remember coming over a large hill in Basking Ridge at the time and I saw 10 cars who slid down the thing out of control.

  108. grim says:

    Roads in my area were pretreated, plowed, and salted….still terrible.

    Whats your area?

    I was on 3, 46, 80, 23, etc etc. There was no pre-treatment.

  109. joyce says:

    grim,
    Your seemingly never ending amount of patience is incredible.

  110. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    No point in being an apologist. Whatever was done, it was not enough. This wasn’t a major winter storm. We regularly deal with worse. It was November, Mayors are busy partying at a convention, the new governor didn’t even bother to make any announcements until hours into this. At 1:00, I told my coworker what the roads were like and he thought I was joking because he hadn’t seen anything in his neck of the woods in North Jersey. I told him, just wait. The plows were not ready to go, they were hoping rain was going to bail them out. It didn’t. They weren’t adequately prepared and the response was underwhelming. It’s just that simple.

  111. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Grim,

    It was on local rds in Wayne. It was on rt 23 and 80. I didn’t take 46 in the morning, so can’t say that it was treated.

  112. The Great Pumpkin says:

    It wasn’t on all roads in Wayne, but any with a slope were treated.

  113. grim says:

    He doesn’t realize that Wayne salting a township road has nothing to do with DOT salting Rt 80.

  114. testing says:

    Pumpkin, Its gonna flood in most parts of Wayne today. Do you have flood insurance?

  115. Phoenix says:

    80 was pretreated in the left hand lane eastbound from Denville to Paterson. I took that route at noon yesterday and it was done, only in the fast lane. It could have been before Denville, but that is where I noticed it.

  116. Phoenix says:

    “I have a very close friend who owns a landscaping business and he spent the entire night Wednesday putting the plows on the truck when the NWS said there would be 1″. HOW’D HE KNOW?”

    He did not know. What he did was to prepare for the worst case scenario, and to be able to provide excellent service- even if he lost money/time doing it. His gamble could have been off, time, fuel, labor wasted- but if he was right, his customers received the quality that they paid for. Too bad more companies don’t act like this. And Govt services are the worst for things like this as they get paid no matter what the outcome.

  117. JCer says:

    Yes pumps, the towns did OK for the most part it was the DOT that dropped the ball as well as the urban cities who didn’t have plows out. To someone’s comment it was the private plow guys who were out playing as well as the dpw guys in the smaller towns. The state DOT and the counties seemed to do a poor job. Again the weather was bad, I get that but this is nothing new we occasionally get these wet winter storms and I’ve never seen them handled this poorly. To grims point employers weren’t telling people to go home or not come in, a state of emergency would do that.

  118. PhilMurphy says:

    What are you guys complaining about, don’t you remember what I said back in April…

    “We need to be that state that’s good value for money. You say: ‘You know what? It may not be the cheapest place in the country to live, but you get a lot back for that.”

  119. gobsmacked says:

    The meme that keeps on giving!

  120. JCer says:

    Phil I was muttering that while parked on rt 280 for 3 hours last night which hadn’t seen a plow or salt clearly and was covered with a sheet of ice….

  121. AJ says:

    Seriously, why couldn’t Murphy call a state of emergency? Doesn’t he know I need the government to take care of me. To tell me when the weather might turn. To help me make the choice to leave work at a safe time so I don’t have to sit in traffic? Yes, I know the snow started exactly when they said it would, but I need my government to coddle me and tell me what to do.

  122. Blue Ribbon Teacher says:

    Murphy said that he couldn’t declare a state of emergency because it was too late. I disagree. The accidents piled up from the south as the storm marched north. Moreover, he tried to blame the forecasters? I saw clearly towns along the I78 corridor that had freezing rain forecasted to immediately follow the snow.

  123. Fast Eddie says:

    Moreover, he tried to blame the forecasters?

    Democrats would blame their mothers for birthing them if it meant giving them power and control.

  124. No One says:

    AJ,
    While I resonate to your sentiment regarding the nanny state, until the capitalist revolution happens, it’s the government that monopolizes control over roads and most transport infrastructure. So it is their product and service to be responsible for. With a governor more interested in different priorities.

  125. D-FENS says:

    Yep…found the program Grim…I think you nailed it.

    https://www.njslom.org/DocumentCenter/View/7111/103rd-Annual-League-Conference-Session-Program-2018

    the NJ League of Municipalities convention in AC had Murphy making a speech yesterday. Much of his Administration was likely there too. Everybody was partying in AC while we ran out of gas and slept in our cars on some godforsaken NJ highway.

  126. D-FENS says:

    This is Murphy’s Lawn Chair on Island Beach State park moment…

    The press is too friendly to him though. I doubt they report it…

  127. Fast Eddie says:

    Murphy fiddled while the state deteriorated.

  128. D-FENS says:

    Put in the battery powered basement watchdog backup pump in addition to your new pump.

    I have an older model with an audible alarm if your main pump fails. I think the newer models can send an alert to your phone.

  129. Ottoman says:

    Christie let the Fort Lee traffic jam go on for 4 days, not 3.

    Anyway, he shudda just gone down to Disney World like he did whenever Jersey got hit with a blizzard. And then blamed all the local towns for his mismanagement.

    “Murphy fiddled”

  130. Ottoman says:

    Speaking of Wayne, 23 Laauwe is now listed at $550,000 less than Grim said it was worth.

  131. 1987 condo says:

    D-Fens, was that for me? I do not have a pump, I do not get water. I had an internal burst pipe. Thanks.

  132. D-FENS says:

    Christie wasn’t Governor yesterday Otto

  133. D-FENS says:

    That was for Juice. He posted at 9:30AM that his pump failed.

    Sorry to hear about your busted pipe

  134. 1987 condo says:

    Ok, ugh, problems everywhere. Good luck Juice!

  135. Libturd...look me up in Costa Rica says:

    D-link water sensors. Have one by my pit in my Glen Ridge home and one by my sump pump and the other by my boiler and water heater at the multi. They are $50 each refurbished and really reliable. Though they have a soft audible alarm that you would only hear if on the same level. The notification sent to your phone is super loud and obnoxious. Super easy to set up and so far they have been running error free for me for 3 or 4 years. One alarm definitely saved my basement at the multi when the float in the pit got stuck.

    https://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DCH-S160-Detector-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07FTW5XLD/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1542401214&sr=8-4&keywords=d-link+water+sensor

  136. 1987 condo says:

    Thanks Lib

  137. 1987 condo says:

    I’m intrigued by the water hero device as it will auto shutoff the water at the main.

  138. JCer says:

    1987 condo, I have perpetual fear of water leaks. What I did was put in the el cheapo simplisafe alarm with $15 water sensors. I also automated my home with wink, and added a watercop on the main valve going into the home. I then created an AWS Lambda that polls the undocumented simplisafe webservice so in the event of a water alarm it cuts water to the house, when I turn the alarm on it shuts the interior lights, adjusts the temperature, and cuts the water while the alarm is set to away, upon returning it turns the water back on and sets the thermostats to the at home temperature.

    So far so good, the AWS lambda has only ever failed once due to an AWS outage otherwise it has been reliably running every 2 minutes for 8 months now. I save more money on my insurance policy with the simplisafe than it cost. The watercop can be bought for like $75 at http://www.thesmartesthouse.com, you can even buy zwave water sensors for $20-$30 that work with wink. There are other electronic valve options from dome, lowes even sells one called leaksmart that will work with wink. In any event way cheaper than what Chubb was recommending buy. You can buy a valve for $100, a Wink2 for $100, and sensors for ~$20 and automate the whole process.

    I can’t wait to replace my garage doors so I can get the smart openers so when we open the garage door it turns on the interior lights. The smart lighting is the big cost, quality switches like the lutron caseta or the z-wave models from leviton cost at least $50-$60 each anything cheaper like the GE units you buy at lowes seem to have gremlins. Suffice it to say I think I’ve spent almost $2000 on light switches.

  139. 1987 condo says:

    Thanks!

  140. Juice Box says:

    Joys of home ownership folks….

    Sump replacement today was more complicated than I thought it would be.

    Power was dead to the sump outlet, I traced it to a daisy chained GFCI which also seems to have failed, as the breaker is not tripped.

    It also seems the sump pump also failed, I energized it and no joy. It is a 12 yr old Little giant 1/3 HP. I hit it a few times with a rubber mallet, it is dead for sure and was pretty muddy and gunked up.

    I dropped in a new RIDGID 1/2 HP Cast Iron Submersible Sump Pump and wired it to another outlet.

    I also noticed my drainage system backed up when I energized the new pump. My drainage is tied into the gutter system and is underground out to the street, the drain in my back yard patio was backing up so there is a blockage down the line perhaps a tree root.

    Back flow valve not performing as expected either, seems leaky..that I will change at a later date.

    So I am off to Home Depot to rent a camera system in the morning…still cheaper than a plumber.

    https://www.homedepot.com/tool-truck-rental/Drain-Camera/CGPF-ECAM-ACE/index.html

    If I have to dig, I can do that too. I did plenty of landscape construction to pay for college, something kids today have no clue about.

  141. Juice Box says:

    Life hack. I have a good size portable dehumidifier. I hate changing the water tray. So I wired up a smaller fish tank pump and ran the hose into the sump basin. After a few days my basement will be dry as a bone, no need to change the tray.

  142. Juice Box says:

    JCer – “I think I’ve spent almost $2000 on light switches”

    I still waiting for costs to come down. I want to do as much home automation as possible, ecobee however has only dropped 20% this year. That is still $80 a switch..

  143. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Good stuff, juice. Saving yourself a lot of money.

  144. The Great Pumpkin says:

    You know what will happen now, right? So many people complained and demand perfection, so that’s exactly what they are going to get now. Only problem, they will now b!tch about the cost of perfection. So any time there is a forecast of 1-3 inches, the state of nj will prepare as if it will be a blizzard. People really had to b!tch, didn’t they? And these are the same people crying for lower taxes and smaller govt. People are insane, cant make this stuff up.

    No One says:
    November 16, 2018 at 2:19 pm
    AJ,
    While I resonate to your sentiment regarding the nanny state, until the capitalist revolution happens, it’s the government that monopolizes control over roads and most transport infrastructure. So it is their product and service to be responsible for. With a governor more interested in different priorities.

  145. Mike S says:

    Was such a good call to leave work at 830 last night. Was home in mid-essex co. By 10 via rt 3.

  146. The Great Pumpkin says:

    This con artist….

    “We shouldn’t look upon them as if they have great information. They had such bad information in 2007,” Cramer said. “They have this judgment that the economy’s great. It’s an irresponsible, non-empirical judgment. It’s anecdotal. It has not a lot of homework. And I favor rigor. I think rigor is what matters, sophistication and rigor. And they’re unsophisticated, and they’re non-rigorous, and I would rip up their homework and tell them to go home.”

    https://apple.news/AdAcCQ7T3SE63nlxKF6eEbQ

  147. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Just like all the other con artists, he is obsessed with growth. If the current housing market stagnates till 2020, who cares. This type either needs growth or bust to feel good about an investment. If the market needs a breather, nothing wrong with letting prices stagnate till the consumer can afford higher prices. It doesn’t have to bust, and it doesn’t always have to go up in price, stagnation can be healthy.

  148. Joe says:

    For those in PSEG area. You can get some nice Thermostats for practically free or 50% off. These are instant rebates. I got two Ecobee 3 light. Two is the most they you can get for free so once is a spare. At 19 dollars you cannot beat it.

    https://psegmarketplace.com/

  149. The Great Pumpkin says:

    The plan describes sites that cover around 21 acres, some owned by the San Jose Redevelopment Agency, others by the City of San Jose.
    “Google will pay full freight for land, taxes, fees, and additional community benefits like affordable housing, in stark contrast to other cities handing out billions in local tax dollars to attract big companies,” San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo said in a statement. “We offered Google no subsidies, and they didn’t ask for them.”

    https://apple.news/AumXRBEqsTDGSAmKqj4prwA

  150. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Seems like tech is investing in heavy expansion. I will not sell one share of any tech company I own.

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