C19 Open Discussion Week 33b

From News 7:

Hoboken joins other NJ cities in COVID crackdown

Several cities in New Jersey have decided to close nonessential businesses early as the state looks to contain an alarming spike of COVID-19 cases.

Newark announced strict new restrictions earlier this week with Paterson and now Hoboken following suit. Jersey City has elected not to institute a crackdown.

In Hoboken, bars and restaurants now have to close early as we approach Halloween weekend.

They want to avoid crowded, mask-free party scenes like one caught on camera in Paterson. That city now has a midnight curfew on all nonessential business.

In Hoboken, Mayor Ravi Bhalla’s executive order goes into effect Thursday, closing all bars and restaurants at midnight seven days a week.

The intention, the order says, is “to limit situations when social distancing and other precautions are much less likely to be followed.”

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307 Responses to C19 Open Discussion Week 33b

  1. dentss dunnigan says:

    Winning ….

  2. dentss dunnigan says:

    and second …..

  3. Juice Box says:

    Power hungry mayors, it’s the governor who decides lockdown not you local yokels.

  4. Juice Box says:

    What is with all the panic? Stats show Covid-19 numbers have not spiked.


  5. Juice Box says:

    Tony Bobulinski who? Quick reporters are around hide Sleeping Joe back in the basement….

    If you are a CNN viewer – or a viewer of MSNBC, ABC, CBS or NBC etc – you would have no idea who this whistleblower is.

    This is deliberate coverup, n0 coverage of a major news story by the “mainstream” media.


  6. Fast Eddie says:

    I can’t imagine what the media outlets would be like if it was the Trump family instead of the O’Bidens.

  7. 30 year realtor says:

    No news coverage of that story by the WSJ either. Their only coverage is opinion. Does this mean it doesn’t meet their standards? Giuliani dropped the story in the lap of the WSJ and they chose not to cover it.

  8. 1987 Condo says:

    30, from what I read, I believe the WSJ felt they were being improperly pressured by the Trump campaign, and may have felt they were being used..as Trump was pre-announcing their story, etc… so whether valid or note, they seemed to have pulled back from publishing…

  9. BRT says:

    and no conflict of interest too right?

  10. Fast Eddie says:

    No Joe O’Biden role? Why did Hunter text Tony B. to tell him he told his father about him and discussed plans? Why did Joe meet Tony B. on more than one occasion? Why did Jim O’Biden use the term “plausible deniability” when Tony B. asked him if he was worried that this would affect O’Biden’s political aspirations?

  11. SomeOne says:


    I can’t imagine what the media outlets would be like if it was the Trump family instead of the O’Bidens.

    Pulling one’s head out of Trump’s a$$ may help see how they are grifting.

  12. JCer says:

    Eddie this whole thing reeks like 3 week old fish. Let me get this straight the sitting vice president’s son and brother get a 5m loan from a senior member of the CCP and are involved in all kinds of shady business dealings with Joe’s knowledge. The Chinese official believes they are making a loan to the “Biden Family”. There should be outrage from all Americans regardless of party affiliation. Put the TDS aside for a second and realize what these people have been engaged in…..

  13. Libturd says:

    It’s not a story because all of the actual links to Joe are hearsay from Bobu’s mouth. Like the pissing dossier, it’s got no legs. Especially in a media you’ve spent the last four year’s bashing at every opportunity, You reap what you sow.

  14. Fast Eddie says:


    It’s amazing that every news outlet isn’t in flames covering this story. It’s astonishing beyond belief. A presidential candidate was/is selling influence to a foreign enemy for personal gain and there’s documents, phone recordings, texts, first-hand accounts and no media outlet is investigating further.

  15. Juice box says:

    I wonder if Devon archer is cutting a deal say he’s he’s due for sentencing on the Indian bond scam

  16. Fast Eddie says:

    It’s not a story because all of the actual links to Joe are hearsay from Bobu’s mouth.

    Text messages, phone call recordings, documents… all hearsay, your honor.

  17. Libturd says:

    Anyone following my stock moves got hammered. I sold off what I bought on Tuesday on Wednesday morning as we broke through downside resistance for the first time since March. Sold some other stuff too and moved my 401K with 30% gains on the year to 50/50 growth/stable. I think the downside risk is greater than the upside here. Next real resistance is March Covid lows. Real estate is dead if these moratoriums continue. You can’t let working people not pay rent. What a fukced up decision that was. I know two people who sold their rental properties in the last month. Good luck finding an apartment when this thing is over.

  18. Libturd says:

    “Text messages, phone call recordings, documents”

    Show me one with Joe Biden on it.

  19. 3b says:

    Librurd: It amazes me, but it should not, that in the middle of a pandemic people are out over bidding on houses. Every piece of shit by me is selling. One was new construction , built 2 years ago on Kinderkamack Rd in Oradell, hard on the side of the road, almost no sidewalk, and KKR is 4 lanes there. Previous owners were there less than 2 years, and I am guessing they took advantage of the opportunity to get the hell out and dump it on some other poor unsuspecting foolish couple. This won’t end well!

  20. 30 year realtor says:

    Just a month ago. How many investigations are needed. Keep talking about TDS. Whatever it is you guys are suffering from is far more concerning.


  21. Juice Box says:

    Joe did not influence any deals in any of those foreign countries, the Biden name had nothing do do with millions of dollars given to The Biden family for “introductions”. Hunter was the lawyer for the spy chief of China After the spy chief was arrested by the feds for bribery because Hunter is a qualified criminal defense attorney.

    There is nothing to see China is our friend according to Joe Biden.

  22. BRT says:

    There’s a difference between hearsay, and witness corroborating.

  23. Libturd says:

    Except when the witness is seeking revenge for not being fairly treated by his business partner. Trust me. This Bobu guy is no American patriot. Ask yourself, why is he spilling the beans?

  24. ExEssex says:

    In the final week before Election Day, new coronavirus infections have soared to an all-time high — virtually guaranteeing that the pandemic will be the most prominent issue in America as voters prepare to choose the next president.

    The big picture: Cases are surging and local hospitals are straining at the very moment that voters are choosing between President Trump, who continues to insist that the pandemic is almost over, and Joe Biden, who has made the crisis a centerpiece of his campaign.

    Where it stands: On average, nearly 72,000 people tested positive for the coronavirus every day over the past week. That’s the highest seven-day average on record.

    Twice in the past week, the U.S. has set a new record for the most cases in a single day.
    The virus gained strength over the past week in 41 states, including nearly every important battleground state.
    New infections were up 16% in Arizona, 21% in Florida, 22% in Ohio, 23% in Wisconsin, 25% in Michigan and 33% in Pennsylvania.
    The only exception was North Carolina, where infections held steady at about 2,200 per day.

  25. A Home Buyer says:

    In my opinion:

    There is NOTHING that could have come out over the past 4 weeks that would have changed people’s mind about their candidate. Voters are not voting for candidates they want. That illusion died after the Democratic Primary.

    People are voting for the person they feel will do them the least perceived damage; hoping the real decision makers will moderate and minimize the bad taste for pulling the lever for their candidate of choice.

  26. Nomad says:

    10-14-20 interview with Ivy Zelman, regarded as one of the if not the top analyst in the housing industry.


  27. JCer says:

    Lib, they impeached Trump over the pissing dossier and reported on it non-stop as if it were undisputed fact. Regardless of which side you are on the difference in media treatment is indisputably different and biased. It should raise more than few eyebrows that every “partner” of Hunter Biden’s is speaking against him and many have been charged with crimes.

    Trump has not done a great job on the Biden-Harris hypocrisy. Kamala and Joe were locking up poor people for smoking refer while Joe shields his kids from prosecution. The Biden family has been involved with criminal operators yet they are never prosecuted, why? If Devon Archer is dirty and Bevan Cooney is dirty how can their partner known crackhead Hunter Biden not be dirty? This is a crackhead who would stab his mother to get a fix, you think he wasn’t in on any illegal activity his partners were involved in? Joe Biden has been protecting the whole Biden clan, covering for the Biden misdeeds. These people belong in Jail.

    Lib has bought the “plausible deniability” hook line and sinker……You won’t find Joe’s hand in the cookie jar that is what his son and brother are for. The firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor shows enough that Hunter was paid to stop the Burisma assets from being frozen and Joe used government money to make it happen…….

  28. Juice Box says:

    Lib – They accused Bobu of being part of a Russian campaign against Biden and would not retract it. They accused him of treason, Joe himself lied and said it’s Russia during the debate. That is a coverup, they are all lying yet all you see of Bobu is pissed about the deal only. You think Bobu hired ex-navy seals to protect his family because he lost some money on a deal? They are crazy and will stop at nothing to protect Joe Biden’s lies.

  29. leftwing says:

    “No news coverage of that story by the WSJ either…and they chose not to cover it.”

    “Especially in a media you’ve spent the last four year’s bashing at every opportunity, You reap what you sow.”

    I realize everyone is wearing their red/blue jerseys in a close game between rivals in the minutes….

    Being entirely non-partisan…..

    The point for me is that the media hasn’t vetted it. And if they have, they should report on that. The discovery process they went through to discredit it. Similar to other stories from both the Left and Right over the decades, from Watergate to whether Blasey Ford is credible.

    Silence is not an option. Especially – most especially – when paired with flat out censorship on social platforms.

    Understand I am agnostic politically on the specific issue, it matters not to me whether it is Right or Left.

    Lib’s comment is downright frightening. Literally the most chilling thing I’ve heard.

    Nearly every abhorrent event in history has started with controlling what the population sees as reality. Go through your authoritarian regimes, past to present.

    If we are arriving at the point where there is a press that ‘keeps score’ and a distribution system that bans any discussion of opposing views – no matter how credible or not – we are approaching full on Matrix mode. The world your children will live in and perceive will be determined by about four dozen individuals. We could land people on Pluto but if they say it didn’t happen, then it didn’t, regardless.

    You may think I’m off point or down the rabbit hole but I’ve likely typed few things as important as the above.

    No dictator, no crimes against humanity regime, ever started out by explaining what their ‘final solution’ was. Historical atrocities start with framing an ‘unreal’ reality for the population then letting that beast loose in a controlled pen.

    It is bone chilling frightening to me witnessing the silence of the press and the censorship of social media on this topic.

    Not because of its content, but because of the implications for our way of life by taking that first step down that path.

  30. 3b says:

    Nomad: Thanks. Listening to it now.

  31. Libturd says:

    Too much conspiracy and the impeachment wasn’t over the pissing dossier. It was over withholding aid as blackmail to look into a political opponent.

    Not everything is a conspiracy.

    No mention of Tucker’s, “documents are authentic, damning … and have gone missing in transit.”

    Connect it to Joe and then you have a story. Otherwise, it’s only about the crackhead son. Still all conjecture, regardless whether the mainstream covers it or not.

    It’s not conjecture that Trump withheld aid from a foreign county for not looking into his political opponent’s potential wrongdoing.

    Big difference.

  32. Libturd says:

    Yeah Nomad. I’m listening too. Thanks.

  33. D-FENS says:

    Wow Libturd, you are experiencing some serious cognitive dissonance.

  34. leftwing says:

    “Except when the witness is seeking revenge for not being fairly treated by his business partner. Trust me. This Bobu guy is no American patriot. Ask yourself, why is he spilling the beans?”

    Hahaha, now I’ll throw my partisan hat on…..EVERY whistleblower in history has a similar profile. Perceived they were screwed one way or another by those they are ratting on.

    Otherwise, fat and satisfied with ill-gotten gains, why in the world would you walk into the Feds and blow something up?

    Wouldn’t happen, by definition.

    “Hey, how great is it we absconded with millions each.”

    “Yeah, it’s fantastic. Think I’ll go to the Feds and rat you out though”


  35. Libturd says:


    Trump did this to himself. Sorry you can’t see this. Fake news is the greatest offense to the free press. Never heard a Democrat utter that phrase. If you choose to tell the world that every single thing small and large, the press negatively reports on you is fake (complete with silly nickname and often bearing the brunt of a bad joke at the same time). Well don’t expect the press to do you any favors. This is not about censorship. This is about revenge. Like I said before. You reap what you sow. You simply won’t and don’t get favorable treatment by burning all of your bridges. As long as news is a business, it’s pretty fukced anyway.

  36. Libturd says:


    Answer my question then? Why is Bobu suddenly reporting on this and why the conspicuous timing? I don’t buy conspiracy theories as you know. I said on day one the pissing dossier was bullshit. When Warren smeared Bernie, it was the exact same situation. All hearsay. No evidence. The only witnesses being those who would gain from it. Hmmmm.

    Pretty funny there Gator.

  37. Libturd says:

    Can’t wait for Bobu’s book deal. This guy should be in jail with Hunter for forming a partnership with a crackhead. This is your credible witness. If the WSJ (conservative) editorial board wouldn’t touch it. Then there likely is nothing there.

    Must be just another conspiracy (today’s replacement for fake news).

    Cognitive dissonance? Do you even know what that means? Or are you just throwing out long words to try and sound intelligent?

  38. Juice Box says:

    re: cognitive dissonance

    The Biden Family Zero interest forgivable loan is all the evidence I need. The Senate report released on Sept. 23 said that CEFC affiliates wired $5 million to Hunter Biden’s law firm over the course of a year beginning in August 2017.

    The report said that some of the wire transfers were also flagged by banks for potential criminal financial activity.

    There is the smoking gun.. Nobody gets a loan of $5 million for nothing, Nobody. It is an illegal payoff and Tony Bobulinski connected the dots for the FEDs, and Ye went missing over it.

    Ye Jianming via CEFC was bribing everyone including the UN it’s a coverup of massive proportions of international bribery by the Chinese. Jim Biden, Hunter Biden and by extension Joe should have stayed away from them and they did not.

    If it was Trump’s kids accepting a $5 Million dollar wire transfer for nothing there would be another impeachment.

  39. Bystander says:

    Boo-hoo, where is Benghazi and Comey to rescue our candidate a week before election? We need smear. Someone send an email now to Joe Biden offering Epstein’s compound to Russia in exchange for 1m lbs of Hunter’s heroin, as agreed. There is the proof, can’t you see? My 2020 red hat must be used..you all have TDS..waah.

  40. leftwing says:

    Lib, no worries on the stocks, I am putting together a buy list for things I can hold long term if they come in on price next week or so. Not going long anything new right now. Keep tossing out ideas. My risk, I have my big boy pants on.

    I would suggest that if we continue down it’s not an express elevator to March lows and I really don’t expect we get back there anyway. Yesterday’s vol of 40 in any other market should represent a near term peak….voice in the back of my head still says watch out. That voice, however, is historically not among the most reliable ones I listen to….

    I am noodling around a rate play, likely through futures though. Will put that out if it happens.

    For your long list look at BAC….not at these levels but the technical lines on that stock are as clean as I’ve seen. It is the best of a (dying) breed….no one with 2 handle on their age has an account at a traditional bank unless absolutely forced to but…this is a reliable channel stock and, it is among the best run of the money centers (only JPM better). I’m effectively short it now on a blue wave trade, expecting it to get puked up with a Biden victory on more regulation and (hopefully) a Warren Treasury. The line I would look for it to break is 22, and if it goes back into the teens that’s when I’m looking to go long. May need to be nimble because if the Senate flips the market is going to be looking for rising rate plays and may hop in to money centers as a proxy regardless of regulatory or COVID risk (which would be part of my long thesis to get in). Like in March the look at this stock in the teens may only be a single daily bar.

    I did exit my vol trade when it hit highs yesterday. Still have some shorts in the green I continue to ride, BAC and my Rochester felons. Adjusted my losing LYFT trade, taking profits on one written leg and adjusting the strike down on the long calls. May still lose the same amount if I’m wrong on the passage of Prop 22 but now will see much more profit starting at a lower price if I’m right.

    All for now. Need solid long ideas to buy on a pullback!!!!

  41. Juice Box says:

    Cognitive dissonance is the feeling you get after voting for either one of these red or blue presidential candidates, it the feeling you would get after just taking willing bite from a shit sandwich, not a surprise sandwich either. I did not take a bite of the shit sandwich and therefore my conscience is clear and I suffer no cognitive dissonance.

    I am tired of all of the corruption and the lies. Our country reminds me of a few dumps I have visited around the world. We are no better it seems.

    Heck I might join you in Pura Vida, what town should I be looking for the escape to Lib?

  42. Libturd says:

    I’m looking!

    So getting back to stupid politics, the uber-respected (Daily Caller) writes.

    A recent Senate report, released last month, reveals that an affiliate of CEFC wired $5 million to Biden’s law firm during the period between August 2017 and August 2018. Furthermore, Hunter Biden also represented Ho during his legal battle.

    So where’s the connection to our former vice-president? What office was he serving in when this happened?

    And I have the cognitive dissonance?

    I know I am in the company of very few here who can separate his bias from his views. Still looking for a connection to sleepy Joe. Just because you want there to be one does not mean there is one.

  43. Juice Box says:

    Interesting you can immigrate to Costa Rica by opening a $60k bank account and have only $2k a month of provable income. How soon before that place fills up with Americans looking to escape the high cost of living here? Two hour time difference from East coast and a 5 1/2 hour direct flight for only $422 round trip flight on United.

  44. Libturd says:


    I can’t tell you where to live. My advice would be to take a trip down there for a month or so and explore. You can ride an air-conditioned, wifi-enabled bus across the entire country for $10. I rented an SUV for $15 a day from Alamo. Did half the country with NJexpat in about ten days and for under $1,000 all in (airfare included).

    The northwest corner (Liberia airport accessible) on the Pacific side is the bomb weather-wise. Or up by the volcano in Arenal if you don’t want to pay for air-conditioning.

    You know, ExPat was joking that once we setup down there, half of the blog would follow. He realized the value and quality of life preposition. He just drank way too much beer. That dude drank like he was still a Frosh in college.

  45. Nomad says:

    US States Face Biggest Cash Crisis Since The Great Depression.

    If you listened to the Ivy Zelman video I posted earlier, she mentioned the foolishness of raising taxes on NY wealthiest residents because many will just leave.

    How does any state escape this? NJ taxes already too high. White collar layoffs are going to be showing up more frequently.


  46. leftwing says:

    “Well don’t expect the press to do you any favors. This is not about censorship. This is about revenge.”

    My point exactly. An independent Fourth Estate is one of very few institutions that keeps us free.

    When the concept of “revenge” even comes close to entering their lexicon we have taken the first step down a very well worn dark historical path.

    Not kidding guys. Nothing – literally nothing – is more troubling over the past four years and this election cycle. Everything else is just background noise.

  47. ExEssex says:

    My issue with the whole Trump thing is that his failures are so blatant and his successes virtually non-existent. So why retain someone like this. 18 people in his immediate orbit are in jail or awaiting trial. Drain the swamp my @ss.

  48. Juice Box says:

    Lib – you want to see a wire transfer to Joe? Only a fool would do that, they hide all of it behind a Delaware “special” in a LLC setup to move the money around. The “big guy” is always out of arm’s reach from the law. It’s Jim and Joe and the rest of them down in the beltway taking the forgivable loans from the CCP or anyone else that should be in jail. Those loopholes for LLCs and forgivable loans, and credit cards with high limits that don’t show up in a tax return anywhere never show up as income is the real crime here. IRS, FBI can unwind it all. They so far have chosen not to, hedging their bet for the election it seems, and our congress is busy playing Russian bogeyman all the while it was the Chinese compromising our politicians.

    Looking back I did call out Trump and his Chinese loans in 2016. There was little mentioned in the press, the MSM chose to focus on the Germans and their bank loans to Trump and they put out a bunch of stories and crafted a tale or Russian money via German banks according to Fab anyway.

    We are doomed. Might as well start leaning Madarin.

  49. ExEssex says:

    Oh yeah Trump really showed cHinA……His tariff money has gone to appease decimated farmers. Yet, some on his board bleat about entitlements. That’s dissonance.

  50. Phoenix says:

    Fake news is the greatest offense to the free press.
    I’ve learned in my life how effective lies can be. American children are learning from the American adults. They’re not exempt from social media so they see it all. I mean now when I see an Amber alert all I see is some poor guy trying to see his kids not a criminal. This country is going to go the same way as the 737 Max.

  51. Phoenix says:

    No China showed Trump. Enjo y your covid-19. Don’t think that was an accident for one minute. And even if it was you can thank your corporate Lords and your paid off politicians for allowing this to happen. They can’t even have a coordinated defense against this. Just as stupid as they were during 9/11.

  52. Juice Box says:

    One thing about Trump. I was almost sure he was going to move on Venezuela. I still wonder why he didn’t. I guess he does not have the killer instinct like Barry or GWB did to start wars, that is the real reason why he needs to be replaced.

  53. Phoenix says:

    We are doomed. Might as well start leaning Madarin.
    All of their operatives are already over here. Boomers sold out America so they could buy cheap stuff to fill their McMansions. Enjoy your trinkets.

  54. ExEssex says:

    12:01 I’ve heard good things about the place. However, what about a split level in Illinois with a $2300 Tax bill, or a Jersey shore cottage sporting a nice $6000 tab!?

    All that and you can freeze your @ss off for six months out of the year. Cannot imagine that CR stays as cheap as that, but it sounds pretty cool for those who want out and can tolerate the tropics.

    The US will run it’s share of folks off with the taxation and that ain’t about to get better.

    The future is ominous for the Pension laden places like IL and NJ. Just cross the river to KY and pay $700 a year for a decent place.

  55. ExEssex says:

    The big bummer is even after we run Trump out of office (and just in time I may add) we’ll be stuck digging out from under his incompetence for a decade. Smoke em’ if you got em!!

  56. Juice Box says:

    Essex – those farmers send their crops all of the world as part of our influence, about 25% of U.S. farm products are exported, if we eliminated the trade-related aid to farmers and they went bust a huge hit on the US economy and the impact to US influence around the world would be massive. People would starve in the shit holes around the world where we send our crops, and there would be wars over it. Don’t underestimate the value of the farmers to foreign policy.

  57. Phoenix says:

    Soon enough they’ll be more people being hit by trains than riding in them.

  58. Phoenix says:

    Those same farmers that are being extorted by companies like John Deere and not allowed to work on their tractors. Yeah just keep sucking corporate twig.

  59. Bystander says:


    For nearly 40 years, both sides have played ‘kick the problem down the road’ politics. It will never stop until the gig is up and world stops buying TBills and oil is settled outside USD. There will be a major war before we allow that. The precedent is very clear and Fed will continue to enrich top to keep charade going. The other side is significant pain and politicians know pain hurts their re-election and therefore wealth. Just enjoy ride for as long as it lasts. It ain’t changing Trump or Biden or anyone else.

  60. Phoenix says:

    Aerosolized radiation eliminates covid. We just might get to see how well it works.

  61. Phoenix says:

    40 years. The boomers. Yep the greedy ass boomers. Just can never get enough for themselves. The karens that cry when there’s not enough cheese on their nachos. 40 years of white American boomers trying to keep their white American women happy.

  62. Phoenix says:

    That’s probably the reason there’s not enough toilet paper and paper towels. All the papers required to keep printing treasury bills and cash. Eventually the music stops playing and one has to find a place where to sit.

  63. Phoenix says:

    NJ Transit should start setting up designated suicide zones with plastic tarps for easy cleanup.

  64. Phoenix says:

    Hypersonic weapons will hit you so fast you will have time to duck but not enough time to cover.

  65. Libturd says:


    You okay?

  66. Phoenix says:

    Just preparing for my day that’s all:-)

  67. 30 year realtor says:

    Tucker lost the proof! You just can’t make this sh#t up. Any you guys just keep defending it and licking it up.


  68. chicagofinance says:

    I disagree with your implied conclusion.

    What your evidence suggests (in my opinion) is the integrity of the WSJ reporting staff to only publish exact material based on verified information without conjecture. So the fact that the reaction remains on the opinion pages is not a denigration of the Hunter Biden laptop story, but rather the superior standing of that news room.

    That said, such a standard does not exist anywhere else…… so the WSJ refusal to print is commendable, the rest of the MSM is a partisan bunch of hacks with no such restriction.

    30 year realtor says:
    October 29, 2020 at 9:18 am
    No news coverage of that story by the WSJ either. Their only coverage is opinion. Does this mean it doesn’t meet their standards? Giuliani dropped the story in the lap of the WSJ and they chose not to cover it.

  69. leftwing says:

    “The big bummer is even after we run Trump out of office (and just in time I may add) we’ll be stuck digging out from under his incompetence for a decade.”

    No less competent than Carter or GWB. And what specifically did he do that needs “digging out from”? If anything marks DJT’s term it is an entire lack of action, be it positive (no foreign interventions) or negative (virus). Little historical perspective with drama queen tendencies is not a good color on you.

    “It will never stop until the gig is up and world stops buying TBills and oil is settled outside USD.”

    Now this Leftie gets the cigar! The second the USD is not the world’s reserve currency our rapidly approaching third world nation status will be on full display.

  70. chicagofinance says:

    Didn’t Hillary invent the term? Trump just confiscated it…….

    Libturd says:
    October 29, 2020 at 11:12 am

    Trump did this to himself. Sorry you can’t see this. Fake news is the greatest offense to the free press. Never heard a Democrat utter that phrase.

  71. chicagofinance says:

    Didn’t Hillary invent the term? Trump just confisc6ted it…….

    Libturd says:
    October 29, 2020 at 11:12 am

    Trump did this to himself. Sorry you can’t see this. Fake news is the greatest offense to the free press. Never heard a Democrat utter that phrase.

  72. Juice Box says:

    Lib – as far as moving to a cheaper place to live.

    My uncle immigrated here and drove a bus up and down Broadway for 20 years and took his retirement early and left here to go back to Ireland with wife with three of his four kids in tow back in 1981, youngest was in 8th grade at the time, oldest child was an adult and worked in Manhattan for Chase a time and he stayed here in the US for another 7 years until he met his wife and now lives in New Zealand. The two other children were in high school in the Bronx, they finished secondary school in Ireland and went off to nursing school.

    My uncle enjoyed the remained 27 years of his life traveling, golfing and coaching kids, and retired early to the village he grew up in near his two sisters and tons of cousins. He always said he beat the system by retiring early and leaving high cost NYC.

    I am now near the age he was when he retired, and I can see leaving this high cost sooner than later. It just ain’t worth it anymore if you can work remote and be educated children remotely on zoom.

  73. chicagofinance says:

    Stu: the whole point is that there is wall between the news room and the editorial staff. That wall used to be ubiquitous. Now the one at the WSJ is one of the few that remain.

    Libturd says:
    October 29, 2020 at 11:21 am
    Can’t wait for Bobu’s book deal. This guy should be in jail with Hunter for forming a partnership with a crackhead. This is your credible witness. If the WSJ (conservative) editorial board wouldn’t touch it. Then there likely is nothing there.

  74. chicagofinance says:

    Phoenix is the new age clot….. he is to emergency medicine what clot was to real estate.

    Phoenix says:
    October 29, 2020 at 12:30 pm
    NJ Transit should start setting up designated suicide zones with plastic tarps for easy cleanup.

  75. chicagofinance says:

    leftwing says:
    October 29, 2020 at 11:38 am

    Aren’t the money center banks an implied bet on the 2’s/10’s spread, with JPM the one offering the least operational risk?

    That said, from a strategic perspective, isn’t MS the best positioned relative to a post COVID and normalized world?

    Long-term bets? How about secular growth stories? Until the central bank risk dampening is removed, you may as well put some moonshots out there…..

    I don’t see how you put anything on today……. you have $6T of market cap reporting after the close. Why TF would you want to get in front of that?

  76. Libturd says:

    Agreed Chifi.

    I think most liberals still think that the NYTimes can still be wholly trusted!

  77. chicagofinance says:

    left: like kissing your sister……

    HOUSTON (Reuters) – Exxon Mobil Corp on Wednesday kept its fourth-quarter dividend flat at 87 cents a share, signaling 2020 will be the first year since 1982 that the U.S. oil producer has not raised its shareholder payout.

  78. Juice Box says:

    Democrats are panicking. The mail in ballot numbers are lower than they expected.


  79. 3b says:

    Juice: I knew a few Irish guys that did that back in the day. One went back to my Father s home place and had his huge Plymouth Fury shipped back, it was so out of place on those rural country roads.

    As for WFH it’s here to stay and growing. The CEO of Reddit based in San Francisco said the other day that employees can choose to live wherever they want and their salaries will not be cut. Not familiar with Reddit, some social media platform that apparently techies like.

    As for remote learning for students, it’s a disaster, just not working.

  80. Libturd says:

    Remote learning is working great for my sophomore as well as for the little guy on Fridays. I agree, it will not work well for everyone. A lot depends on the teacher and the student’s level of discipline and ability to focus with distractions.

  81. 3b says:

    Islamic terrorist kills 3 today in Churches in France, apparently beheading one of them. It’s shocking madness, with all this crap going on in the world these bastards are out killing people in the name of God.

  82. leftwing says:

    “Phoenix is the new age clot…”

    LOL. So true. How’s Clot doing? Thought I saw him lurking here once or twice…

    Chi, yes. Specifically not looking to put anything on pre-election, certainly not today since as you note major tech reports after hours. Prepping to be nimble in a pullback I like between election and inauguration…

    I have had substantial cash balances since around Sept 2019. My market activity since then was mostly trading and I kept my trades on short leashes, first months, then weeks, then day(s)…..

    Current vol level notwithstanding I do believe we’ll see some pullback worth waiting for. I did very well in March acting quickly but consistent with the above they were trades…usually 180 day or so option positions multi-legged…so I’m back to cash. And if I see the right levels I’ll hop in this time for the longer haul.

  83. No One says:

    While lack of media coverage is concerning, the Biden family is just doing the same thing internationally as they did domestically. Joe does the political favors, and his family collects the profits. Joe did this for Amtrak, the credit card companies in the past, more recently Ukraine and China. I bet the Bush family had some relationships with China too, not that I think that’s good, but at least 15 years ago people actually plausibly thought China wasn’t a fascist enemy.

    More concerning to me personally is the Dem desire to tax capital gains at a higher federal tax rate, plus probably pay social security and medicare taxes on capital gains. That could easily cost me many million $ when I eventually retire and sell my biggest asset, slashing my retirement assets in half. Maybe Libturd has his flee-to-Costa-Rica money better shielded from the long arm of the IRS, so just doesn’t care.

  84. Libturd says:

    It requires gains to be taxed on them. :P

    I mainly have retirement savings and a lot of real estate with minimal gains.

  85. leftwing says:

    “Not familiar with Reddit, some social media platform that apparently techies like.”

    LOL, 3b….go there on any interest of yours….be prepared for a time sink….

    My ‘social media’ time is split equally between here and there. Do not even have an instagram or whatsapp account; facebook only for those businesses too lazy or cheap to set up a proper website. LinkedIn I glance once a week or so….

    Reddit has some good communities…self moderated, you can find the level of discourse you want, from college kids having an Animal House food fight online to some very good and high level insights and advice.

  86. 3b says:

    No one: I don’t know how anyone could have not seen China as an enemy. The BS was that China would advance economically by becoming the manufacturing engine of the world and then embrace democracy. As I said BS. Corporate America knew and didn’t and still doesn’t give a damn! It’s all about enriching themselves.

  87. Juice Box says:

    Lol – Hillary Clinton is now an elector for the electoral college for the NY delegation, this is a person who wants the electoral college eliminated.

  88. leftwing says:

    Here’s a subreddit I spend some time in….lots of bullshitting among the regulars and some lightweights but if you spend some time there are some very smart people here playing with some real money….

    Depends on what you are looking for but IMO the subreddits with a smaller number of followers are better…the larger they are the more of a sh1tshow they become….used to be a very good options subreddit, I came in when they had around 30k people, super solid, very high level, had a CalTech professor on there running AI on earnings…it caught on unfortunately and is up to 350k people and is absolutely worthless now (although I still follow individually some of the people on there).

    GL. I just bought another sweet 12 gauge SXS field gun, got a lot of help from that sub. Nice platform, if that fcuker ever goes public I’ll be balls deep at open.


  89. 3b says:

    Left: Thanks I will check Reddit our.

  90. Phoenix says:

    I’m honored for the nomination, but filling Clot’s shoes 👟- he was the master :-)

  91. ExEssex says:

    New documents released Thursday by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee reveal that Trump administration officials explicitly attempted to use a $250 million taxpayer-funded “public advertising and awareness campaign” to put a rosy spin on President Donald Trump’s disastrous coronavirus response and boost his effort to win reelection.

    In early September, the Department of Health and Human Services doled out a lucrative contract to the Washington, D.C. consultancy firm Fors Marsh Group to help the administration with an ad blitz framed as an attempt to “defeat despair and inspire hope” in the fight against the coronavirus, which has killed more than 227,000 Americans on Trump’s watch.

    “It is completely inappropriate to frame a taxpayer-funded ad campaign around ‘helping’ President Trump in the weeks and days before the election.”
    —Reps. Carolyn Maloney, Jim Clyburn, and Raja Krishnamoorthi

  92. leftwing says:

    “It is completely inappropriate to frame a taxpayer-funded ad campaign around ‘helping’ President Trump in the weeks and days before the election.”

    Impeach. You still have five days. Call the House back! Bring in the special prosecutor! Bring those witnesses back!


  93. Juice Box says:

    Censorship in the Media.

    Glenn Greenwald (famous for Edward Snowden docs) quits The Intercept over it.

    “Today I sent my intention to resign from The Intercept, the news outlet I co-founded in 2013 with Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras, as well as from its parent company First Look Media.

    The final, precipitating cause is that The Intercept’s editors, in violation of my contractual right of editorial freedom, censored an article I wrote this week, refusing to publish it unless I remove all sections critical of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, the candidate vehemently supported by all New-York-based Intercept editors involved in this effort at suppression.”


  94. Juice Box says:

    bit more from Greenwald because it’s great writing just like Matt Taibbi.

    “But the pathologies, illiberalism, and repressive mentality that led to the bizarre spectacle of my being censored by my own media outlet are ones that are by no means unique to The Intercept. These are the viruses that have contaminated virtually every mainstream center-left political organization, academic institution, and newsroom. I began writing about politics fifteen years ago with the goal of combatting media propaganda and repression, and — regardless of the risks involved — simply cannot accept any situation, no matter how secure or lucrative, that forces me to submit my journalism and right of free expression to its suffocating constraints and dogmatic dictates.”

  95. crushednjmillenial says:

    Fox News had a short story this morning around 7 a.m., wherein they stated that all three of NBC, ABC, and CBS Nightly News (the 6:30 p.m. flagship programs) covered 0 minutes the night before of the Hunter Biden story AND the testimony of the Big Tech CEO’s.

    If this is true, then big media is acting both irresponsibly and ridiculously.

    Even if there is honestly zero connection whatsoever between Hunter Biden’s business dealings and Joe Biden himself, it is still a story of public importance. At a minimum, the story should be front page news because it seems that the son of the presumptive next President has huge business dealings with foreign-government connected business interests, especially and most-dangerously, those of China.

    At least in the US we do have a free press, so Fox News, the NY Post, other conservative media, the Hill, and Politico have been reporting it; also Bloomberg radio was livestreaming the Tech CEO testimony yesterday and I didn’t see it but I imagine CNBC probably did so for some time as well. The other mainstream news outlets have soiled their reputations irreparably in this instance.

  96. Phoenix says:

    Just waterboard him on national TV. We don’t have time for anything else. Get right to the meat and potatoes.

  97. Juice Box says:

    Funny stuff from Matt Taibbi’s twitter account

    What made Russiagate unique as a conspiracy theory is that you need a college degree to believe it, because it requires a special sort of stupidity only conferred by higher education

  98. chicagofinance says:

    leftwing says:
    October 29, 2020 at 2:30 pm
    “Phoenix is the new age clot…”
    LOL. So true. How’s Clot doing? Thought I saw him lurking here once or twice…

    left: you want LOL…… here is LOL

  99. ExEssex says:

    Husband: Honey! I planned a trip to Wine Country this winter….
    Wife: oh that’s great! Are we flying into San Francisco?
    Husband: No. Ithaca.

  100. Juice Box says:

    I bought a case of wine from Clot way back in his Jersey City days when his “no snooki” sign made the news. He warned me that some of you folks were in fact dangerous and not to be trusted. I am not sure if he mean giving money to an Albanian to manage or hiring one of the lawyers here or he was just kidding. Never could be quite sure with that one anyway, he was for sure comedy gold.

    If I am ever in the People’s Republic I will stop in for a tasting.


  101. Juice Box says:

    And the hits keep on coming….

    Apparently Hunter Biden has his own a p*o*r*n-H*u*b page with videos of his “performances” he liked to share with the public, some more recent taken in the Hollywood hills too.

    He may need to parlay this stuff into a deal as a producer to make a living from now on in. I am pretty sure he is radioactive inside the beltway now, no more money for “introductions”…

  102. leftwing says:


    Never had the pleasure of meeting him. Funny, one can paint a mental picture of anyone who posts. His photo is 180 degrees of what I would have envisioned, ha. In a good way, btw.

  103. Phoenix says:

    A merchant term of service agreement in an online consumer transaction is valid and enforceable when the consumer had reasonable notice of the terms of service,” Amazon states. “Plaintiff had notice of the [Conditions Of Use] and is bound by it.”

    No wonder people despise lawyers. And corporations.

  104. ExEssex says:

    Even before the U.S. economy was slammed by a pandemic, the typical American household’s income grew at a slower pace in more than half of the states under Donald Trump than in the years leading up to his presidency, according to a new Capital & Main analysis of U.S. Census data.
    Those states include several key battlegrounds, undercutting one of Trump’s central campaign themes: that before COVID-19 his actions led to an economy he has described as “the best it has ever been.”
    Co-published by USA Today
    Pennsylvania saw its typical household’s income growth slow from 6.2% in Obama’s last three years to 4.7% in Trump’s first three years, while median household income growth in Wisconsin declined from 7.1% to 6%.

    In New Hampshire typical household income growth slowed from 7.2% between 2013 and 2016 to 3.1% from 2016 to 2019, while in Iowa it slowed from 4.5% to 3%.

    Nationally, median family income growth in Trump’s first three years was almost identical to the rate of growth in the three years prior to his presidency, according to one of the two main Census surveys. A second Census survey shows that median household income growth actually slowed in Trump’s first three years to 2.1% annually compared with 2.6% annually during Obama’s last three years.

  105. Juice Box says:

    FBI confirms an OPEN investigation into Hunter Biden and Associates since 2019 for money laundering..

  106. ExEssex says:

    FBI also confirms Trump to lose in 2020.

  107. Juice Box says:

    FBI additionally confirms and additional video of ExEssex recorded at Hunter Biden’s home in the Hollywood Hills.


  108. Fast Eddie says:

    Trump +1 in Minnesota

  109. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Anyone’s take on the economic numbers?

    “Bottom Line. Record gains were not enough to get us out of the hole that COVID created for the economy and the risk that the economy flatlines or does worse are rising in the fourth quarter. We now have to hope for retroactive stimulus from a lame duck Senate, which is unlikely.”

  110. ExEssex says:

    Fake Fake Fake

    One month before a purported leak of files from Hunter Biden’s laptop, a fake “intelligence” document about him went viral on the right-wing internet, asserting an elaborate conspiracy theory involving former Vice President Joe Biden’s son and business in China.

    The document, a 64-page composition that was later disseminated by close associates of President Donald Trump, appears to be the work of a fake “intelligence firm” called Typhoon Investigations, according to researchers and public documents.

  111. 3b says:

    Listening to Joe talking about systemic racism and how Trump apparently won’t admit it. And what exactly has Joe said or done about systemic racism in 47 years in Washington? Just amazing to me.

  112. Juice Box says:

    ExEssex- fake? As in Joe Biden saying during the last debate the first hand testimony Tony Bobu to the FBI under penalty of law for lying is fake? Joe Biden is lying…..

  113. njtownhomer says:


    I think so many people conned, or Qanon’ed on many things on China and Biden’s. Smell of Bannon in the air.

  114. Chicago says:

    I am not going to dispute that there is a fake 64 page document. But what is linkage to Hunter Biden’s laptop?

  115. Fabius Maximus says:

    Lots of ManSplaining the Girl Scouts!

    Quick question. Without Google, how many female conservative role models can you name?

  116. Libtard says:

    I just read through this POS. What a complete waste of time. Like I said before. Pure conjecture.


  117. Chicago says:

    Listen up FlabMax. As usual, any argument you make is inherently dishonest

    Your charge of fake relative to that NBC report is intentionally specious.

    The only thing fake about the report is the author, and the author was taking steps to conceal their identity for whatever their reasons. Most likely due to personal safety or professional reputation all damage.

    Nowhere in that report is the suggestion that any of the contents are invalid.

    You are dreadful. A chronic malady to engaging intellectual discussions.

  118. JCer says:

    Where there’s smoke there tends to be fire. The way I see it there has been suspicion for a long time and they are prodding to find out what there really is, hiring someone to do research, etc, but they had nothing. The laptop was the first chink in the armor, it showed directly that Joe was somewhat engaged with Hunter and the cast of misanthropes he partnered with in business. What we got was an appetizer but as lib points out no definitive evidence of wrong doing just the appearance. I suspect this is Trump’s revenge for Russiagate and the impeachment. Maybe politicians will not be arrested but their crooked family members will be…….

  119. leftwing says:

    “No wonder people despise lawyers. And corporations.”

    Yes and no. As someone who had a business providing a not inexpensive service over a term the consumer is to blame for trends here, over time…there is a predictable not insignificant percentage of people who corrupt the basically understood social contract – you pay and you receive the service – to get out of their obligations. I do not hesitate to litigate, and cannot recall an instance when I’ve lost. But those 45 paragraph long Terms and Conditions? Blame your assh0le neighbor.

    I’m young enough to remember when those ridiculous small print, five words per second disclaimers on consumer ads first came out. Same thing….some idiot tries to replicate a stunt on TV and injures himself, now every car company needs to tell you ‘do not try this at home’ in legalese so they have a valid defense against the next idiot….

  120. leftwing says:

    “Listening to Joe talking about systemic racism and how Trump apparently won’t admit it.”

    Prove systemic racism exists.

    Using analysis that must pass academic scrutiny. Of at least a HS AP class or community college.

    That means not anecdotal. And specifically not correlation.


  121. leftwing says:

    “Lots of ManSplaining the Girl Scouts!”

    Latest installment of cancel culture. They expressed support for HRC and RBG as well. No complaining there.

  122. leftwing says:

    More importantly, in the latest installment of Twitter abuses they suspend the account of the Head of CPB.


    Even more disturbing, when I searched for a link I entered the following as I couldn’t remember exactly which agency was involved…”twitter suspends account of head of…”.

    The google search returns, in order: the twitter help page, five stories from Oct 13 about someone pretending to be black supporting DJT, and wikipedia.

    Firefox (duckduckgo) returns, in order: four stories from yesterday about the CPB head and one story from July from the Washington Examiner on the AZ Repub Head being bounced.

    ****You have no freedom whatsoever when the basic information you require to make an informed decision as a citizen is repressed and manipulated****.

    Twitter and Google are the worst offenders with the largest share.

    The following statement means something coming from me, a libertarian, fiscal conservative, and all around Gadsen flag type guy…regulate them into oblivion or make them a public utility.

    The are singularly the greatest threat to the way of life you have now. Bar none.

    They control what you think by controlling what you perceive as reality. Purely Orwellian.

  123. ExEssex says:

    December 2015, Donald Trump, then a presidential candidate, made a casual admission. “I have a little conflict of interest ’cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump told his interviewer, Steve Bannon, who would later take over Trump’s presidential campaign, on a Breitbart radio show. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers—two towers, instead of one, not the usual one, it’s two.”

    Trump’s conflict in Turkey is actually not little.

    Last month, more than 150 paragraphs into its 10,000-plus word expose on Trump’s taxes, the New York Times revealed that Trump has pocketed “at least $13 million — far more than previously known — including more than $1 million since he entered the White House” through a 2008 licensing deal in which he is paid for his name to appear on two glass towers in Istanbul.

  124. ExEssex says:

    The corruption here became even more clear on Thursday, when the Times reported new details on efforts by the president and members of his cabinet to quash an investigation by federal prosecutors into an alleged sanction-violating scheme by a Turkish state-owned bank following personal pleas from Erdogan to Trump. Federal prosecutors alleged Halkbank evaded US sanctions on Iran and believed the scheme “had helped finance Iran’s nuclear weapons program,” the Times reported.

    Trump’s effort to help Erdogan on Halkbank “illustrates how compromised President Trump is,” says Kathleen Clark, a law professor at Washington University in St. Louis. “There is every reason for us to be concerned that he directed the Justice Department to give Erdogan what Erdogan wanted, and that he did that not out of his conception of the public interest, but instead out of his conception of his own personal interest.”

    This major conflict of interest exists because the president refused to divest from his businesses after his 2016 victory. Critics say this is part of Trump’s rampant violation of the Constitution’s emoluments clause, which bars federal office holders from accepting gifts, payment, or other things of value from a foreign states.

  125. homeboken says:

    Still lots of morons ignoring the reality in front of their face, don’t trust their own lying eyes I suppose.

    The far left and the MAGA crowd have found common ground. Destroy the establishment ruling class.

    I know some of you here were not Team Biden during the primaries. Would it have been useful to know about the Biden FBI investigation during the primary?

    Two general elections in a row now-the DNC stifled legitimately supported challengers, namely Bernie, in favor of their establishment pick.

    The far left base is done with the DNC, that part is going to fracture to pieces unless Biden pulls off the upset and hands control over to K. harris, Warren, Sanders, et al.

  126. ExEssex says:

    Outliers won’t win this election.

  127. leftwing says:

    And, last post, I promise…..

    I’m up and banging away at this hour to catch Gottlieb on CNBC…for anyone wanting the latest, most accurate, and least biased updates watch him, he’s on every morning sometime shortly after 630a…

    Anyway, buckle up buttercups….

    He’s projecting 90k daily infections to be reported coming out of this weekend with a view to breaking 100k shortly, possibly next week. Also there is a rapidly increasing number of areas with both growing cases and positivity rates which demonstrates “uncontrolled viral infection” and is the basic benchmark for local shutdown.

    Oh, and WalMart has taken all weapons and ammunition out of the front of stores ahead of the election. Will still sell it, but they don’t want it appropriated in the case of rioting.

    Which, BTW, term is now banned from CNBC as of today. Host let that slip in the early AM hour. A number of favored euphemisms seem to be developing, two popular seem to be civil unrest and looting events….

    Going to be interesting later next week/early following with election uncertainty (level TBD), COVID outbreaks accelerating and through a major benchmark, and general unrest.

    Everyone else is getting ready, are you (your accounts)? Know what you own and why. If you have dry powder, have a specific game plan for goodness sake, don’t just start shooting from the hip…If you’re sitting on fat gains the time to hedge was weeks ago when it was cheaper, but some reasonable avenues are still open.

    GL all.

  128. ExEssex says:

    Our game plan was to get the f@ck away.
    It worked. No more winters, no more congestion,
    and we can watch the world burn from a safe distance.

  129. BRT says:

    Twitter and Google are the worst offenders with the largest share.

    The following statement means something coming from me, a libertarian, fiscal conservative, and all around Gadsen flag type guy…regulate them into oblivion or make them a public utility.

    The are singularly the greatest threat to the way of life you have now. Bar none.

    They control what you think by controlling what you perceive as reality. Purely Orwellian.

    I’ve been saying for years that the internet has transformed into a gigantic pile of garbage. What I also found alarming was how nearly every news organization, in unison, decided to suspend comments on their articles earlier this year.

  130. Fast Eddie says:

    “The enemy is within the gates; it is with our own luxury, our own folly, our own criminality that we have to contend.”

    ― Marcus Tullius Cicero

  131. Libturd says:

    “make them a public utility.”

    Sounds a bit like soc1alism or at the minimum, regulation.

  132. Libturd says:

    For the TA person, today’s market should be interesting. If we have further follow through to the downside after those relatively fantastic tech earnings (Amazon grew revenues by 35% but didn’t do a great job with margins). It could get very ugly among a protracted decision.

  133. Fabius Maximus says:

    So we have one author claiming a little piece of it. Proved fake and deception. Bannon, Q and Ep0ch T1mes. So yea, not really buying it.
    I have no doubt that H was hacked at some point and someone has all his genuine emails an photos. Are those emails and photos on that laptop. Most certainly. Are ALL the emails and photos genuine? Thats the big question. Now we look at how the laptop surfaced and once Rudi showed up with that BS story, I’m out.
    So how would this work in real life?
    Lets say I have a couple of old emails from someone that are genuine. There’s header information in them that shows me source IP, relays etc. There is also some nice idiomatic writing patterns.
    “I just get the feeling that you are someone I should know in professional circles.”
    So from this I can craft an email that can say whatever I want it to.
    “Every morning I get in my car and cry. Its an ugly cry. Alf will be singing Only You on the CD and I know in my heart that Vince was the true talent in the band. When he left it hurt and it still hurts today”
    Mix in a more few real ones and the genuine give a perceived provenance to the fakes.
    “I am pretty relaxed about helping people out.”
    Its hard to prove that something did not exist on the source system when they are surrounded by items that did. How well would my side hold up? How talented do you think I am?
    Remember W’s National Guard records. They held up, right up to the point they wheeled out some typewriter expert that said the IBM Golf ball font was not available in that year. The whole point of this laptop is that it does not have to hold up forever, it just has to hold up long enough. Problem is that its crumbling faster than expected.

  134. Fabius Maximus says:

    “Where there’s smoke there tends to be fire.”

    In my best Ben Stein voice, “Mueller? Mueller?”

  135. Fast Eddie says:

    Per the Trafalgar Group – The only ones who predicted 2016 accurately:

    Trump +2 – Michigan
    Trump +1 – Pennsylvania
    Trump +2 – Florida

  136. Fabius Maximus says:

    “…regulate them into oblivion or make them a public utility.”

    Where were you when the GOP were throwing Net Neutrality under the bus?

  137. Dink says:

    Its funny how every time on this board whenever someone says something like “google did not return results on….” and thinking its some sort of grand Google liberal conspiracy suppressing results almost invariably always turns out to be more like, “i am old and not tech savvy and dont know how to use google”.

  138. Fast Eddie says:

    The Mueller Report:


  139. ExEssex says:

    White House chief of staff Mark Meadows appears to have tapped into federal resources to help a friend of his wife’s raise money for her campaign to fill his congressional seat, government records show.

    The revelation sharpens questions that election law experts raised in Salon’s previous report on Meadows’ possible use of tens of thousands of dollars in campaign funds for personal expenses after announcing he would not seek re-election, a crime that earned prison time for former Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.

  140. Fast Eddie says:

    Dink – a person slavishly devoted to intellectual or academic pursuits.

    Ex: In those days a dink had a better chance of winning the lottery than of dating a cheerleader.


  141. Libturd says:

    “The Trafalgar Group was somewhat prolific on Monday, the day before the election, releasing surveys in Florida (Trump ahead by 4 points), Michigan (Trump ahead by 2 points) and Georgia (Trump ahead by 7 points).”

    It helps to look at history.

    This one is over. Get ready to refill the swamp.

  142. ExEssex says:

    President Trump has reportedly called off plans to host an election night event at Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., a person familiar with the plans told The New York Times.

    The source told the Times that Trump will instead likely remain at the White House on Nov. 3.

    This comes after the Trump campaign last weekend sent fundraiser emails to donors announcing a drawing that would give one winner, along with a guest, the chance to be flown to the nation’s capital, where they would stay for free and attend the Nov. 3 party at Trump International as VIPs.

  143. ExEssex says:

    The latest Harvard CAPS-Harris survey of likely voters found Biden at 54 percent and Trump at 46 percent, with 57 percent of independents supporting the Democratic nominee.

    A Hill-Harris poll released Thursday found Biden leading Trump by 3 percentage points in the swing state of Florida, while 51 percent of those surveyed in the key state of Pennsylvania backed Biden and 46 percent supported Trump.

  144. Libturd says:

    Trump should get Florida and Texas. (77)

    Sleepy Joe will get the following (89)
    Pennsy is blue. (20)
    Wisky is blue. (10)
    Mich is blue. (16)
    Minn is blue. (10)
    Nev is blue. (6)
    VA/NH/Maine/CO/NM are blue. (33)

    NC is close.
    OH is close.
    IO is close.
    AZ is close.
    GA is close.

    I haven’t done the math, but I think even if Trump gets all of the close ones, he still loses. Anyone want to do the math?

  145. Libturd says:

    Just more lies from the POTUS Essex. Thank the lord it’s over next Tuesday. I just really, really hope he goes quietly and does not ignite a war between the radical factions in each party.

    I look forward to having to work hard to figure out the lies than to just have to safely assume them.

  146. Phoenix says:

    “Where there’s smoke there tends to be fire.”

    Or this:

  147. Nomad says:


    Some insights on racism. 1st episode on replay. PS, Kashkari has always been a big proponent of education.


    If you don’t catch Gottlieb on live tv, he posts most of his interviews on Twitter. He’s about as level headed as you can get and has the soft skills and diplomacy to handle the stuff that evokes rage in some people.


  148. Libturd says:


    Not looking good at all for Trump. Hope getting Covid at a stupid rally was worth it to these folks.

  149. Fast Eddie says:

    Why is O’Biden going to Minnesota? A state not going red in 48 years?

  150. Libturd says:

    He is thanking them for organizing the riots.

  151. D-FENS says:

    One theory is that their internal polling shows them losing the presidency, so they’re putting their energy into visiting states that have tight senate races.

    Fast Eddie says:
    October 30, 2020 at 11:03 am
    Why is O’Biden going to Minnesota? A state not going red in 48 years?

  152. leftwing says:

    Nomad, thanks on the link, I’ll check it out over the weekend. Respect Kashkari. If it’s posted as an answer to my question to prove systemic racism, however, I’m doubtful as the first sentence on the front of the document states as a premise what I’m asking someone to prove, ie. “Racism forms the foundation of inequality in our society…”

  153. Phoenix says:

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    Joseph Goebbels.

  154. Phoenix says:

    Saddle up.

    Rough riding ahead.

  155. Libturd says:

    Naz 10 and 7/8ths. We’re back to August 5th. As expected. The close should be fun today.

  156. Libturd says:

    Jersey number 2089. It is parabolic time. In two weeks we will top our former highs and will again overwhelm our hospitals leading to more deaths than should be necessary. I’m reading horrible things about the likely long term effects of this horrible virus. The mask mandate can’t come soon enough. I hope the fines are significant enough for right wing numbnuts to comply.

  157. leftwing says:

    Dink….funny how some people on this board have no reading comprehension and no inhibition whatsoever demonstrating lack of same to all in their posts.

    Never said liberal conspiracy. Never brought politics into it at all actually. Pretty sure I have down an understanding of search engines but thank you anyway.

    The point, for the comprehension impaired, was the comparative results on two engines concurrently.

    One, rarely used, returned the most current match in the top four places.
    The other did not return the most current result, at all.

    Since I suspect your logic may be as sharp as your comprehension you may argue that the keyword match was not sufficiently precise in which case you would need to assume that duckduckgo’s search algorithms are superior to Google’s for basic keyword match?

    Have at it.

  158. leftwing says:

    “… the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    This should be Twitter’s motto. Emblazon it right beneath that stupid little bird.

  159. leftwing says:

    Lib, NAZ?

  160. Libturd says:

    in New York City, about one of every 352 residents has died.

    But we’re rounding the corner. Easter is nearly here.

  161. Libturd says:


    Time to put away that 11K hat.

  162. njtownhomer says:

    Questions on traveling candidates, add ons:

    Why did Frump go to Nebraska the other day? Is the only district (single electoral vote) that important?
    Why did he have to go AZ/NV border? Wasn’t those states red since you were an orange seed in mommies belly?
    Why does he have to go to FL? Was the senior vote not his liking this time?
    Why does he trust Trafalgar and skip MI? and instead go to his birth state NY to try to claim the state?

    And-on and on. Early voting window is permanent from now on. TX is flipping. If this is not the election that flip the switch next will. Until GOP accepts the multi-cultural identity of the union and stops blaming immigrants for everything, it is cooked in the near future.

  163. Dink says:

    “The other did not return the most current result, at all.”

    Ugh, you just very simply click on News or Past 24 hours to get those results.


    So you may quibble with the interface or the way in which results are displayed to you on Google but you state that they did not return the results at all with an obvious insinuation that it is some sort of Google suppression effort. But you also insinuated that Kamala had an earpiece in the debate where she was being fed info on a fly on Pence’s head so you are obviously a little prone to crazed conspiracy thinking.

  164. Fast Eddie says:

    Notice the death to case ratio. It’s non-existent at this point. And, the vaccine is ready for distribution. By the way, we still don’t have a vaccine for SARS, Bird Flu, Ebola, or a host of diseases that arose during previous administrations.


  165. 30 year realtor says:

    Huge turnout in Texas cannot be a good sign for Trump.

  166. leftwing says:

    “But you also insinuated that Kamala had an earpiece in the debate where she was being fed info on a fly on Pence’s head so you are obviously a little prone to crazed conspiracy thinking.”

    My you’re adept at reading people’s minds…..you should apply at Twitter. They’d appreciate you.

    Simply asked a question….how in as stressful a situation as your first national debate for one of the highest offices in the land on an auditorium stage separated by twelve feet and two sheets of plexiglass on an angle under klieg lights while answering a question does one notice something less than 10mm in size?

    Open to all answers.

    Doesn’t imply anything illicit.

  167. leftwing says:

    Hitting interesting levels right now boys…..through 3250 on futures…..she holds, look out below.

  168. 3b says:

    30 year: What is your rationale regarding Texas turn out?

  169. 30 year realtor says:


    People are dying at a rate of about 1000 per day and rising. Vaccine distribution date unknown. No vaccine has finished trials. Infection rate exploding. More deaths are certain. It is a horrible situation. We all hope it will end as soon as possible. It didn’t have to be this way.

  170. 30 year realtor says:


    Trump administration has taken every possible action to repress voting. They do not want a high turn out. Early voting already exceeds 2016 total.

  171. Fast Eddie says:

    It didn’t have to be this way.

    Thank G0d Trump closed the borders and restricted flying out of country in January as O’Biden called him rac1st weeks after the fact (as far past as March 8th) and Pelosi was urging people to come on down to China town!

  172. chicagofinance says:

    I am not asking a leading question. I am looking for a good faith response. I have no opinion and am searching for factual evidence.

    How do you explain the developments in the Eurozone relative to the health crisis if these countries are held out as the mature, science-based, and comprehensive response to a difficult situation?

    30 year realtor says:
    October 30, 2020 at 1:15 pm
    It didn’t have to be this way.

  173. 3b says:

    Rumor has it AOC wants Chuck Schumer s sear. Scary, not necessarily her politics but more the fact that she is an arrogant, ill informed idiot, who speaks like she is 12.

  174. CorruptTrump says:

    The next President showed more backbone with Turkey than crooked Donny:


  175. 3b says:

    Joe is in Delaware talking about the 91 corporations who paid no taxes last year. Really Joe? You are the US Senator from the state of Delaware. That says it all!

  176. njtownhomer says:

    I know closely the story for Halkbank (Turkey) washing dirty money for Iran/Russia and it was Putin that possibly told Trump to cover it up. Erdogan does not have that much power. Family of course continues to get money for the named skyscraper, had a subway entrance in front of, dodged all kinds of taxes and regulations in the making. 100 times more than what Hunter charges normally. Just not investigated much.
    This is just one of the visible ones. There may be many more. Erdogan openly sold so many mining rights to shell companies last few years. Wonder who owns them? In that borium, gold, silver and all kinds of stuff. You shall hear them later I guess.

    But some insists on relying on Foxnews that sent documents viaa UPS without scanning them for immediate consumption. I will drink what these folks are having next time.

  177. 30 year realtor says:


    It has been similar to the US but not quite as bad. Politics is also similarly divided. Don’t follow the rules, the virus prevails. Asian countries appear to have a far better handle on stopping the virus.

    Fast Eddie,

    Your are a hopeless cult member.

  178. ExEssex says:

    Eddie has rounded the bend.

  179. Walking says:

    3b -had to reread your statement a couple of times to understand what “chucks sear was”

  180. D-FENS says:

    Campaign rallies are no indication of voter turnout but…


  181. 3b says:

    Walking: Sorry, meant Schumer’s Senate seat as you figured out.

  182. D-FENS says:

    Sound on 👆

  183. Fabius Maximus says:

    Looks like Donnie upgraded his Melania bot.


  184. joyce says:


    Superior Court Judge David H. Ironson sentenced Klymko to five years probation with no jail time, the prosecutor’s office said. Klymko must make monthly payments of $1,438 until he pays back the total amount stolen, $86,275.57, authorities said. At that rate, it will take five years to make full restitution.

  185. BRT says:

    Wow, big crowd for Biden, NO MASKS! Superspreader event! No social distancing? What gives? Why doesn’t he tell them to put on masks?


  186. ExEssex says:

    5:52 and still she’s not even in Michelle Obama’s league.
    Los Angeles City of Champions.

  187. The Great Pumpkin says:

    First time in my life, voted Republican across the board.

    Come gather ’round, people
    Wherever you roam
    And admit that the waters
    Around you have grown
    And accept it that soon
    You’ll be drenched to the bone
    If your time to you is worth savin’
    And you better start swimmin’
    Or you’ll sink like a stone
    For the times they are a-changin’

  188. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Highly recommend “Fargo” series. Great acting, and great storytelling. Enjoy.

  189. ExEssex says:

    7:38 yeah, won’t matter Pümpï.
    New Jersey will go Biden by a landslide.
    Trump is toast.

  190. The Great Pumpkin says:

    I’m a teacher, should vote left as they respect my profession, but the Democratic Party needs to find their identity. They need to focus on the working man and small business. Bigger isn’t always better. Competition amongst a bunch of small businesses seems to produce the most for the economy in terms of progress and strength. That’s how you beat China…unleash a wave of American small businesses competing to the death. Out of that comes a solid winner that lifts all boats.

  191. Dink says:

    “Wow, big crowd for Biden, NO MASKS! Superspreader event! No social distancing? What gives? Why doesn’t he tell them to put on masks?”

    Right underneath the video you linked to it shows it was posted on Dec 13, 2019. Probably the reason why.

  192. BRT says:

    You’re right. I got it from another link that said it was today. My mistake.

  193. BRT says:

    Actually, the only way you beat China is with tariffs. They subsidize their industries and have wages so low that they bring in the cost of production below the cost of raw materials, which will put any domestic producer out of business. Then once they do, they can stop subsidizing and sell into the market for a profit.

  194. ExEssex says:

    6,045 Americans gave up their citizenship in the first nine months of 2020
    Showing a 234% increase on the same 9 months to in 2019, where only 1,811 cases were recorded
    2,072 Americans gave up their citizenship in 2019 in total
    This is the highest year on record; the previous record was 5,411 cases in 2016. Already in 2020, with 3 months still to report, 6,045 is the record number of cases in a year
    This is all while the U.S. State Department has stopped Americans being able to book appointments to renounce at many U.S. Embassies since March 2020

  195. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “Win or lose, Amer­i­ca’s 45th pres­i­dent de­serves credit for a more com­pet­i­tive econ­omy, a na­tion at peace and a se­cure rule of law. Don­ald Trump doesn’t tram­ple Amer­i­cans’ rights. He doesn’t start wars; he ends them. And he makes com­ments that of­fend peo­ple. The cost of sup­port-ing Mr. Trump is en­dur­ing awk­ward mo­ments when he says things that pres­i­dents shouldn’t say. The ben­e­fit is that he cham­pi-ons U.S. lib­erty and pros­per­ity, and a thriv­ing Amer­ica is a ben­e­fit to the world.”

  196. The Great Pumpkin says:

    “The pres­i­dent tells us that a re­cent rule to speed ap­proval of in-frastructure projects will turn out to be among his most sig­nif­i­cant re­forms, elim­i­nat­ing years of bu­reau­cratic de­lays. His com­mit-ment to drain the reg­u­la­tory swamp was in­spired by his own ex­pe­ri­ence try­ing to fig­ure out ways to get nec­es­sary state and fed­eral ap­provals for New York build­ing projects. “I un­der­stand the sys­tem. It’s a con­sul­tant sys­tem. The con­sul­tants go up to Al­bany or they go down to Wash­ing-ton and they make it very tough. So you have to hire con­sul­tants and pay them mil­lions of dol­lars to get a sim­ple ap­proval. No, I know that busi­ness,” he says.”

  197. JCer says:

    On the topic of COVID, perhaps the difference in Asia is not the containment measures but rather a difference of the populations exposure to different corona viruses that are endemic to Asia, perhaps there are genetic differences. Look how is it that the UK, France, Spain and Italy are having a much worse go at it despite lock downs when the Sweedes do literally nothing and had a slightly better outcome thus far? The only way to stop the spread is social distancing and shutdowns, is it worth it? Furthermore the methodology of counting what constitutes a covid death varies by country, the only real tell will be excess deaths but how many are a result of lock downs vs. the disease. No covid deaths in the family yet but one lock down related so far…

  198. BRT says:

    Too many variables to consider to paint with a broad brush.

    1. Island nations that had summer in Feb/March did best
    2. Island nations are able to shut their borders more easily
    3. Nations have different diets, vitamin d, and zinc deficiencies.
    4. Why is Africa not experiencing anything
    5. The US is contin6ent, and is better compared to other nations by looking at individual states. Some states have much better numbers overall than others.

    That being said, why the heck did the Northeast have a death rate triple the worst hit countries. TRIPLE!

  199. njtownhomer says:

    My hunch on the Asians is that their immune systems are much better. That may be related to diet, genes or what not, but BMI is one they have advantage of. I’d bet the common factor in most of the fatalities, there is a strong correlations with BMI.

    Shutdowns are deadly, but a persistent mask usage I think reduced the spread and the viral load so that we see the clear drop in the CFR. Looks like we will carry masks for a few years, more than many would expect.

  200. Fabius Maximus says:

    Pumps, I have always tried not to be the one to dump on you, but at times, you just overreach. Now, I don’t have a problem with your embrace of the MAGA, It’s aimed for a certain demographic and, if that fits wear it.

    I do have an issue with the Infrastructure claims. That has always been BS with this administration. In fact its got to the point of a running joke!

    “In the Trump presidency, it’s always Infrastructure Week, and it always will be. [Vox”

    I liked when Trump told Congress that an infrastructure bill was “not an option” but “a necessity.” Then I remembered that Trump has been president for years now, that he had control of Congress for most of that time, and that he has never prioritized either proposing or passing an infrastructure package. ]


    But Hey, that red hat looks good on you!

  201. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What’s the avg age in these Asian countries besides Japan? Does anyone take this into consideration? Western world is much older than the rising East.

    P.s. You know I love demographics. China is screwed beyond belief, unless they start importing young women adding to the strains that comes with taking care of that large of a population. Imagine when that population gets old and the youth get crushed by the economic demands that come with taking care of a large population of older human beings. Makes our pension problems look like nothing. That’s what the pension problem and healthcare issue really is, a generational issue aka demographics.

    Moral of the story; demographics matter and people should pay more attention to it.

    njtownhomer says:
    October 30, 2020 at 11:01 pm
    My hunch on the Asians is that their immune systems are much better. That may be related to diet, genes or what not, but BMI is one they have advantage of. I’d bet the common factor in most of the fatalities, there is a strong correlations with BMI.

  202. The Great Pumpkin says:


    Just face it, the Democratic party has lost its way. Trump, for all the trouble he brings with TDS, is a blessing in disguise for this country. He saved this country…you just don’t realize it yet. The orange clown made the hard choices and decisions to make America great again.

    Remember, before this virus, our economy was the envy of the world.

  203. Bystander says:

    Blumpy’s wife got the rif from Vornado, his tenants are in arrears and he went all in on cheddar biscuit in can..he was forced into small business ownership and now running his brilliant idea for a winter hot dog stand. MAGA , Blumpy, MAGA with sauerkraut.

  204. Juice Box says:

    Democrats seem to have some voter apathy towards Joe and Kamala, it has now shown up in their own data. They are worried and have deployed Obama to Pennsylvania, low minority voter turnout so far. Who wants to wait on a long line on A cold Election Day?

    “Despite record early-vote turnout around the country, there are warning signs for Biden. In Arizona, two-thirds of Latino registered voters have not yet cast a ballot. In Florida, half of Latino and Black registered voters have not yet voted but more than half of White voters have cast ballots, according to data from Catalist, a Democratic data firm. In Pennsylvania, nearly 75% of registered Black voters have not yet voted, the data shows.“


  205. Juice Box says:

    Trump’s latest campaign ad for Latinos, lots of views and pretty catchy.

    Also According to the link I posted from the Bloomberg article the Democrats have not deployed any hot sauce, AKA pandering Minority voters.

    Where is Kamala she isn’t out dancing On the campaign trail for Votes it seems.


  206. Fast Eddie says:

    Nobody talking about Murphy’s gas and toll increases? Really painful!

  207. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    Joe is a Trojan horse, a vessel for the radical left. Plain as day.

    Among all of the pretending and propaganda from the left is the idea that his rallies are so small due to covid. No, no one cares what you have to say. You can barely speak intelligibly. You are a tool for the power brokers. Steyer, Bloomberg, soros and all the rest who bought you. So STFU and run back to your basement.

  208. Phoenix says:

    When times were really funny.


  209. Juice Box says:

    Joe Biden speaks….“my son’s an honorable man.”

    This is the same one who has yet to introduce you to your latest grandchild, who he fought tooth and nail in court to deny was his child, who delayed child support hearings after it was proven he was the father, the grandchild who he conceived with a stripper, dancing under the name ‘Dallas,’ at the Mpire Club in Washington, D.C. This is also while he was living with his dead brother wife.

    He is garbage.

    Will you invite your latest grandchild to the inauguration?

  210. Phoenix says:

    Typical Boomers. Kicked the can down the road for 13 years, then cash out.

    “I Had No Choice’: Parsippany Mayor Explains 39 Percent Hike In Water Sewer Fees”

    “The last time water and sewer rates increased was in 2006.”

    “First, significantly smaller increases were proposed in 2018 and 2019,” Soriano said. “They were not approved. ”

    “This compounded the growing shortfall. Second, this was the final year we could have kept the water and sewer rates stagnant without both utilities going bankrupt. A major rate increase and bankruptcy were our only options.”

  211. Not Bloomberg News says:

    Parsippany Mayor is a Gen X’er.

  212. 1987 Condo says:

    Ironic if the move to restrict in person voting in NJ turns out to be voter suppression:

    “Inside the Guilford County elections building in Greensboro, North Carolina, early ballots are processed, sorted, and in some cases rejected if voters don’t fill them out properly. While the overall rejection total is relatively low, absentee ballots submitted by Latinos and African Americans in the state are three times more likely to be turned away than those from White voters.

    African Americans have not been cultivated to use the absentee ballot, and as such it’s their first time doing it,” said Dr. T. Anthony Spearman, who sits on the county’s Board of Elections and serves as president of the North Carolina chapter of the NAACP. “With that naivete comes the opportunity for them to not get right what needs to be right.”


  213. Fast Eddie says:

    He’s spent. Shot. Dead. Blown. Wasted. There’s nothing left and there was nothing there to begin with. 47 years of living off the production class as he and his family benefitted from endless pay for play operations. I hope people come to their senses and depose of this reject.


  214. Fast Eddie says:

    Trump +2.5 – Michigan
    Trump +1 – Pennsylvania
    Trump +1.5 – Ohio

  215. ExEssex says:

    “arbeit macht frei”

  216. 3b says:

    Hold Where did that troubled woman get all the money to mutilate herself?

  217. Phoenix says:

    Parsippany Mayor is a Gen X’er.

    Boomers voted him in. And who benefitted from the “tax deferrment?”

  218. 3b says:

    BMI Is deemed by many medical experts not a reliable indicators,more accurate is waist size for determining overweight individuals. That being said Americans consume far too much processed food and pack on the pounds and they get little to no exercise.

  219. Phoenix says:

    Use your eyeballs, look for bellies dragging on the ground and pump fat hydraulically oozing from between the straps of shoes clearly not designed to carry an extra 12 stone of mass.

  220. Phoenix says:

    This one is for you. The woman has a delightful voice. Please humor me and listen to the end.

  221. 3b says:

    Phoenix: So the non boomers are just going to passively accept it and say oh boo hoo the boomers screwed me, feel bad, I have to bid up their POS cape or I won’t have a house.

    I have been screaming about the boomers for years and I am a tail end boomer, but this oh Boo hoo the boomers screwed me is getting old .

    Where was the outrage by the younger people when the nomination was stolen from Bernie in 2016, and again this year when an old corrupt politician was chosen as the candidate. Where is the outrage? Where are the protests? Or are they just focusing on bs nonsense to be outraged over? No one can do something to you, if you let them. It’s just too easy to blame the boomers, when the younger generations just sit back and let it be done to them.

  222. BRT says:

    Body fat, cholesterol and blood pressure are all far superior measurements

  223. ExEssex says:

    Bowel circumference is emerging as the latest
    tell-tale sign for longevity. Never underestimate
    the bodies ability to take a huge dump as a key ingredient
    for a long healthy life.

  224. Fast Eddie says:

    Joe O’Biden, using his drug-addled, dishonorably discharged son as a go-between in pay for play operations for Joe’s personal gain. Compare Hunter to any one of Trump’s kids. And do you notice that all of these so-called stories about Trump are always from anonymous sources? Yet, Tony B. comes front and center to expose the O’Bidens. If you hate Trump, why are you aNoNyMOuS?

  225. chicagofinance says:

    I did. Monmouth County to Oradell and back via GSP is $11.

    Fast Eddie says:
    October 31, 2020 at 8:59 am
    Nobody talking about Murphy’s gas and toll increases? Really painful!

  226. Phoenix says:

    “Body fat, cholesterol and blood pressure are all far superior measurements”

    I agree. That’s why I post them on dating sites instead of my photograph.

  227. Fast Eddie says:

    Democrat Operative in Deep Blue Miami-Dade County, FL: ‘We’ve Got to Stop the Bleeding’


  228. Phoenix says:

    If you can afford the Yukon XL the price of gas and tolls is like crying over the cost of chewing gum.

    Now here is a good one to chew on.

  229. Fast Eddie says:


    That money is for the children.

  230. Phoenix says:

    “Democrat Operative in Deep Blue Miami-Dade County, FL: ‘We’ve Got to Stop the Bleeding’


    Reverse Psychology.

  231. Phoenix says:

    Murphy needs money for a new set of grilles.
    Gold isn’t cheap anymore.

  232. Phoenix says:

    Bowel circumference is emerging as the latest
    tell-tale sign for longevity.
    That’s because if your turd is thin and pencil-like you more than likely have a tumor in your colon-this does not lead to long life expectancy. You might even have to hit up your local drug dealer for pain relief as no one wants you to get hooked on pain meds even while you are dying.

  233. ExEssex says:

    Can you feel the feelin’ https://youtu.be/P4RGcAvqd4U

  234. chicagofinance says:

    Dude…… speak cutting edge FabMax business…
    “EBIT Macht Frei”

    ExEssex says:
    October 31, 2020 at 11:06 am
    “arbeit macht frei”

  235. Phoenix says:

    Bootsy could use some Auto-Tune.

  236. chicagofinance says:

    The lesser known sequel to the Bassomatic 76….. appropriate for today.

    Phoenix says:
    October 31, 2020 at 9:36 am
    Dan in all his glory.


  237. ExEssex says:


    c o c a i n e Is a helluva drüg.

  238. ExEssex says:

    Who needs autotune when you got these background singers:


    Caught Parliament Funkadelic in Chicago on Navy Pier

  239. ExEssex says:

    Anyone listened to The Boss’ new offering?
    “Letter to You” ? Thoughts?

  240. Phoenix says:

    Never saw that one.
    Canada is to comics, as the Philippines is to nursing.

  241. Phoenix says:


    L S D Is a helluva drüg.

  242. chicagofinance says:

    The entire album and the video footage of the from his farm and home studio were recorded near my house. Actually I could walk there…… it’s less than a mile.

    I know those “mongrel trees” well…… those stupid vines are everywhere…..

    ExEssex says:
    October 31, 2020 at 12:11 pm
    Anyone listened to The Boss’ new offering?
    “Letter to You” ? Thoughts?

  243. chicagofinance says:

    ‘Letter to You’ by Bruce Springsteen: A Memo From The Boss

    Bruce Springsteen’s 20th studio LP is an album tailored to longtime fans that explores aging, loss and the meaning found in music.

    ‘Letter to You’ by Bruce Springsteen is out Friday
    By Mark Richardson

    Since the release of his 2012 LP, “Wrecking Ball,” Bruce Springsteen’s creative output has mostly focused on sorting through and reframing his past. His 2014 collection, “High Hopes,” was filled with covers and older songs that were polished up and re-recorded. He issued an expanded version of 1980’s “The River” in late 2015 and later performed the album on tour. His terrific autobiography, “Born to Run,” followed in 2016, and during the next two years he presented “Springsteen on Broadway,” the show about his life and music based on his book. Mr. Springsteen’s record from last year, “Western Stars,” a set of string-laden character sketches that evoked the orchestrated folk-pop of the early ’70s, was an exception to this retrospective trend, but he wrote most of it in 2010, before his extended season of reflection.

    “Letter to You” (Columbia), Mr. Springsteen’s 20th studio LP, out Friday, puts a bow on this phase of his creative life. It’s in part a concept album about the ability of music to give meaning to existence—a favorite theme of his—and it’s also a meditation on time’s passing, how if you live long enough you get used to saying goodbye to the people around you.

    For such themes it makes sense that Mr. Springsteen would reconvene the E Street Band, who haven’t joined him for a full studio album since 2009’s “Working on a Dream.” He wrote most of the songs last year—though, intriguingly, three tunes date from the early ’70s—and all were recorded at Mr. Springsteen’s home studio in New Jersey over just a few days in November 2019. A film companion to the record by Thom Zimny, a frequent visual collaborator of Mr. Springsteen’s, documents the recording of the album in cozy black-and-white. It will be available Friday on Apple TV+. The result of these sessions is a comforting and often moving record tailored for Mr. Springsteen’s most loyal fans, reflecting an exchange between artist and audience that only long-term connection makes possible.

    The sonic character of “Letter to You” is quintessentially E Street, with Roy Bittan’s piano and glockenspiel providing the sparkle atop sturdy guitar work from Mr. Springsteen, Steven Van Zandt and Nils Lofgren; Jake Clemons, nephew of longtime bandmember Clarence Clemons, who died in 2011, provides blasts of saxophone here and there.

    Three consecutive tracks in the middle of the record directly address music as a force for transformation. “Last Man Standing” was written following the death of a friend of Mr. Springsteen, a bandmate from his high-school rock ’n’ roll outfit, the Castiles. With his friend’s passing, Mr. Springsteen realized he was the only surviving member of the five-person group and uses the song to reminisce about their gigs and marvel at the fact that he’s still making music all these years later. “The Power of Prayer” and “House of a Thousand Guitars” extend the backward-looking theme and connect to Mr. Springsteen’s earlier work—for example, “Bells ring out through churches and jails” in the latter echoes imagery from early classics “Backstreets” and “Jungleland.” These melodies are so elemental they can sometimes bleed together, but when the tunes are less memorable the conviction in Mr. Springsteen’s delivery and the chiming arrangements carry the weight.

    The reworking of previously unreleased songs is the most provocative choice here. “Janey Needs a Shooter,” “If I Was the Priest” and “Song for Orphans” were written just a few years after the Castiles split, in some cases before Mr. Springsteen had a recording deal. Each stretches past six minutes, reflecting his impressionistic word-drunk era, when he seemed desperate to squeeze in every thought. But the down-the-middle arrangements on “Letter to You” are consistent enough to absorb the shaggy originals into the new record’s more disciplined aesthetic. The gesture of including such early work is meaningful for those who have been following his story for years, even if the execution smooths out its defining idiosyncrasies.

    Hearing songs from Mr. Springsteen’s youth bumping up against new songs about his youth gives the album an alluring time-stretching flavor that seems designed to draw the faithful closer. During this late phase of his career, the individual listener’s relationship to his previous work provides the context. So what’s affecting to a devotee might seem cliché or even self-parodic to someone who approaches his music with skepticism.

    The opening and closing tracks provide the perfect frame for the album, showing how death and loss are the flip-side of nostalgia, and they also illustrate just how fan-directed this record is. “One Minute You’re Here,” a haunted acoustic number delivered by Mr. Springsteen alone, points out that life can end in an instant, so every moment must be cherished. The lines “Autumn carnival on the edge of town / We walk down the midway arm-in-arm” conjure the wistful Jersey Shore setting that has served as a backdrop for Mr. Springsteen’s work from the beginning.

    The brilliant closer “I’ll See You in My Dreams,” big-hearted and warmly optimistic, expresses earnest belief few artists other than Mr. Springsteen could pull off. It says that death is not the end, because memories remain, and it’s easy to draw lines between the song and the loss of E Street compatriots, namely Clemons and organist Danny Federici, who died in 2008. Mr. Springsteen, who is spry and healthy at 71 years old and probably has a lot of new music in front of him, has written a few dozen anthems that have dented the broader culture and will far outlive him. These more modest songs are likely to be remembered only by those whose relationship to Mr. Springsteen’s music feels more familial, which, given the record’s aims, seems just right.

    —Mr. Richardson is the Journal’s rock and pop music critic. Follow him on Twitter @MarkRichardson.

  244. Phoenix says:

    “Pope Francis, 83 and missing part of one lung, shrugs off coronavirus mask mandates”

    Guess we’ll see how this works out for him. Any chance they’ll let a woman replace him?

  245. ExEssex says:

    Noooice. Very cool write-up too.
    The man has always been there when i needed him.
    Bruce’s music has been a constant since the mid-seventies.
    Pretty sure he’s America’s rock poet laureate.

  246. Phoenix says:

    Southside Johnny>Bruce Springsteen.

  247. Hold my beer says:


    Maybe she’s a bond trader

  248. Hold my beer says:


    I laugh at the clowns who get chinese character tattoos. Here’s a blog dedicated to them.


  249. Phoenix says:

    Miso soup, charcoal grill. That’s funny.
    I find SL to be a riot. Not politically correct but hey.

  250. Brt says:

    In grad school, one of the chinese grad students asked the girl in lab why she tattooed sheep on the back of her neck. The tattoo artist was supposed to put fox or some crap.

  251. TruthIsTheEnemy says:

    This story got almost no attention, but the guy who was the “anonymous” source, trashing trump while working in the administration as a nobody, is in fact a paid contributor to propaganda outlets CNN and nytimes. The circle jerk that represents is mind boggling.

    They didn’t merely fake news , they bought fake news. It’s now a commodity and has a price. Crazy.

  252. 3b says:

    Hold: Maybe she is! What kind of bonds!!

  253. 3b says:

    Springsteen said he is moving to Ireland if Trump is re-elected. Just saying.

  254. 3b says:

    A good friend of mine is Chinese his parents and his wife’s parents off the boat from China. I asked them about stories I heard of white people getting those Chinese tattoos , and how some of them don’t represent what the silly white people were told in fact some of them are the exact opposite and quite offensive. She did not say yes or no, but she did smile.

  255. Libturd says:

    “I agree. That’s why I post them on dating sites instead of my photograph.”

    I post my best bowel movements, so they can see what they will have to endure.

  256. Juice Box says:

    So I have my scary spiders handing out the treats this year, they are motion activated.


  257. D-FENS says:

    Fabius, can you have a look at this video and tell me if it’s been manipulated?


  258. 3b says:

    Jon Stewart is terrified that Trump might be re-elected. Terrified?
    What a drama queen.

  259. Juice Box says:

    3B- Jon signed a new deal with Apple TV to get back on the air after he “retired”. Has to be huge money. He has been down here by me “farming” aka property tax for farmers with a couple of “animal sanctuaries” for a few years now.

  260. Libturd says:

    Stern says Stewart is animal crazy and what he doesn’t pay in property taxes he makes up for in animal care. He says hit vet bills alone outweigh his tax breaks. Then there is room and board.

  261. ExEssex says:

    Brenan Hefner is one of thousands of high earners who’ve left New York this year, an exodus that is deepening concerns over a projected $9 billion budget shortfall.
    Data from the U.S. Postal Service, national moving companies and tech start-ups tracking smartphones all show an elevated outflow from New York City this year.
    For those in finance, the simple math of lower tax regimes is hard to ignore. New York state levies 8.8% on wages for high earners, and New York City takes another 3.9%, or nearly 13% combined.

  262. BRT says:

    Not true…if you have any cousins that are already addicted, they are all too happy to. Pick up your meds for you.

  263. 3b says:

    Juice: I saw that, so he needs to make a drama queen splash with his being terrified; right in time for Halloween! Farming my ass ! So he gets his exemption, while the peasants pay their full ride.

  264. 3b says:

    Lib: Very nice, but he can well afford to do that and pay taxes.

  265. Libturd says:

    True 3B. But it’s better than the mansion owners with the two alpacas.

  266. Juice Box says:

    Lib- I have seen him around he is skin and bones, they collect donations, they have a 501c. I am not saying he does not spend, but it’s part of the hypocrisy I hate which is not paying while demanding other pay more. Bruce Springsteen lives by me too he has animals and takes advantage of the “farmers” tax break on his land. Does he slaughter his piggies and sell them? Not so sure.

  267. Juice Box says:

    Nice Halloween day but not too many kids so far, we are usually mobbed on a Saturday like today. I have 400 pieces of candy and a 100 pencils to give away…..There are a few adult parties too I will stay home wife is going but hey I am not a fan of the real housewives…

  268. Juice Box says:

    Wow just got mobbed, the “smelly” pencils are a big hit too almost out.

  269. 3b says:

    Juice: We have had 2 trick or treaters so far, a little chilly but still nice day.

  270. 3b says:

    Juice: Stewart is a vegan, may be why he is so skinny. I know a few vegans, and they don’t look particularly healthy.

  271. Phoenix says:

    What do John Stewart, Bruce Springsteen and Donald Trump all have in common?

    They all use legal tax breaks to pay less than a waitress at Denny’s.

    But it’s legal. Legal makes everything okay. Nothing to see here. Move along now.

  272. Libturd says:

    Yes Phoenix, that is the real issue at hand. Every time you hear quotes about people paying 40-60% tax rates. Those are the guys who have the shelters to pay less than you an me.

    There is no getting ahead around here in the 150-250K annual income class around here. Whatever increase you get at work gets eaten up by tax increases (tolls, transit, gas, sin). Then at the supermarket, all of the money printing to bail out the rich lend to higher food prices. It’s becoming noticeable too. Not only are the products going up in price, but the size of the containers are shrinking. Be careful of those fancy orange juice and milk containers. They are not quarts anymore. Yogurt went from 6 oz. down to 4 if you are lucky. The last Dannon I had was 3.7 oz. Shredded cheese, many are now 6 ounces down from 8 ounces. Meat prices are really going up too. And when was a loaf of bread $4 to $5?

  273. Fast Eddie says:

    A lot of kids today. My neighborhood swarms with kids everywhere! The bowl is on the front step. I occasionally peak out the window and of course, they usually take more than one piece. When it’s gone, it’s gone. I have to occasionally chase the squirrels away, too! On another note, I see Trump has drawn nobody at the Reading, PA rally. :o

  274. Fast Eddie says:

    O’Biden sounding like he’s giving a concession speech.

  275. 3b says:

    Phoenix: Yes they do, and yes it’s legal, and yet we have the faux outrage from Biden. Biden the guy that’s been in Washington for 47 years, and was the US Senator from the state of Delaware.

  276. Peter Cammarano For President says:

    My fear if Trump is re-elected is simple, rule of law out the window, make me do it. Corruption and malfeasance will go up exponentially. It will be Peter Cammarano’s world. Expect all types of organized crime to explode. The Indians already know what a “Quotation” is. It might become a very popular word. It was Albert Anastasia’s market.

    It will happen because if the top guy can get away with it, is open season. Once non-compliance and non-cooperation starts, there is no FBI, DHS, State Troopers that will stop it. It will be like Mexico. BTW highly recommend Sr.Avila in HBO on Demand, you’ll get a taste of it.

  277. 3b says:

    Hold : I like how the article states he might lose his job. It should be immediate grounds for termination.

  278. 3b says:

    Pete: Take deep breaths and perhaps a weighted blanket.

  279. Peter Cammarano for President says:

    3b, being around the block and dealt with all types. My comment is not about ideology.
    Is simple fact that we are transitioning into an “indecent make me do it society, might makes right” from a deep tradition of rule of law, empathy and social tolerance. Trump’s re-election is the signal to “make me do it”.

    Except those that are adults from the 3rd world, most of you don’t realize the can of worm you are opening, only Pumpkin can relate to it because of his criminal, lazy, nitwitted genetics vis a vis his father.

    Is not just the psychological license to do it. Is that license will open doors to more pathologies and its retaliation. Just a short example, a non-political someone has a landscaper to care for his yard, his neighbor (a MAGA guy) felt comfortable dumping storm debris into his yard. Neighbor was confronted, said he does not have a landscaper and thought he could do it, never apologized and has given attitude since then. Aggrieved party had plenty of Concentrated Round Up that he wisely deployed, neighbor won’t have anything growing in part of yard.

  280. Phoenix holiday edition says:

    “A lot of kids today. My neighborhood swarms with kids everywhere!”

    Like corporations after government money.

    2 years from now those kids will be packing heat.

  281. Phoenix says:

    “It should be immediate grounds for termination.”

    No termination for the Policja.

  282. Phoenix says:

    “Back the blue?


    Yeah, that’s who I want protecting my daughter. Was he in the only town in NJ to have body cameras?
    Now we know why Murphy does not want them to have any.

    Plus he does not want any evidence of him treating the highways like Salt Bae treats his steaks.

  283. Hold my beer says:

    3b and phoenix

    I couldn’t believe that. If he is convicted he might lose his job. Of course since its jersey he will probably either get promoted or resign and get hired somewhere else in jersey.

  284. 3b says:

    Peter: After sifting through and interpreting it, I would say this has been the reality long before Trump.

  285. ExEssex says:

    John Stewart lived with a friend of my wife’s for a while.
    It was before he hit it big.

  286. Phoenix says:

    El Paso. Police refusing orders of a judge. So now there are rogue military armed police forces choosing to do what they want and not follow orders. Now you understand why you need 2nd amendment rights.


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