Sales drop, still no inventory

From Reuters:

US existing home sales slide again, but prices up from a year earlier

Existing home sales fell 2.2% in July to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.07 million units, the lowest level since January, from an unrevised 4.16 million units in June, the National Association of Realtors said on Tuesday. Economists polled by Reuters had forecast home sales would be little changed at 4.15 million units.

Sales fell in the Northeast, Midwest and South, but rose in the West, where home prices have fallen most sharply in the past year. All regions experienced annual sales declines.

Home resales, which account for a big chunk of U.S. housing sales, fell 16.6% on a year-on-year basis in July.

Home prices have bottomed out after being pressured by the Federal Reserve’s aggressive interest rate hikes, but the persistent shortage of properties for sale could limit any rebound as many prospective buyers are forced out of the market.

Mortgage rates have surged again recently to the highest levels in decades, with the average rate on the popular 30-year fixed-rate mortgage topping 7% in the latest week, according to mortgage finance giant Freddie Mac.

There were 1.11 million previously owned homes on the market last month, up 3.7% from a month earlier but down 14.6% from July 2022. At July’s sales pace, it would take 3.3 months to exhaust the current inventory of existing homes, up from 3.2 months a year ago.

A four-to-seven-month supply is viewed as a healthy balance between supply and demand. The median existing house price rose 1.9% from a year earlier to $406,700 in July, the fourth time it has topped $400,000.

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103 Responses to Sales drop, still no inventory

  1. dentss dunnigan says:

    First

  2. Bystander says:

    Its a great day in America, not sad at all.

  3. Very Stable Genius says:

    Donald Trump has now been arrested four times, and Liz Cheney’s warning to his sycophants still applies:

    “I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible.
    There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone,
    but your dishonor will remain.”

  4. Fast Eddie says:

    Home prices have bottomed out…

    Not here. If your listing price doesn’t make you feel embarrassed and queasy, you priced it too low. Bottoming out in the tri-state area means it pauses for a while them resumes its climb.

  5. Fast Eddie says:

    Very Unstable Dem,

    What’s your address, I’ll order one for you. You can wear it while you sip your Bud Light from a champagne glass:

    https://tinyurl.com/ycy5df4r

  6. Phoenix says:

    The same people that “dishonor” you are dishonorable themselves.

    The ones that are honorable are the veterans lying on city streets that no one cares about, spits on, with white women screaming to have them removed because she is “uncomfortable.”

    Very Stable Genius says:
    August 25, 2023 at 8:43 am
    Donald Trump has now been arrested four times, and Liz Cheney’s warning to his sycophants still applies:

    “I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible.
    There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone,
    but your dishonor will remain.”

  7. BananaJoe says:

    The people giddy today are the lefts equivalent to the J6 rioters. No respect for the institutions or the country at large.

  8. Phoenix says:

    Lock her up in prison like the rest.

    Never realized the difference between law, order, and justice. I know now. America is really only trying to keep order, and will use the rule of law to maintain it. Justice is just a variable that rarely ever shows it’s face.

    The wife of Sen. Bob Menendez reportedly sold $400k worth of gold despite facing foreclosure three years earlier and neglecting to disclose the transaction.

    Businesswoman Nadine Arslanian, 56, sold the gold just months before a federal investigation into the New Jersey Democrat was announced to the public.

  9. BananaJoe says:

    You have to at least wonder whether it’s satire when a leftist quotes Liz Cheney. Trump really broke these people.

  10. Chicago says:

    Clot once posted that during the 2004-2005 mania, he quite possibly was not aggressive enough in his listing prices. He said the realtors were self-congratulatory about closing aggressive asks, but maybe there was actually more to take. Just his passing comment.

    Fast Eddie says:
    August 25, 2023 at 8:59 am
    Home prices have bottomed out…

    Not here. If your listing price doesn’t make you feel embarrassed and queasy, you priced it too low. Bottoming out in the tri-state area means it pauses for a while them resumes its climb

  11. Phoenix says:

    BJ,

    I’m not giddy at all.

    But I can tell you after what the “institutions” run by the “country” have done to me, I will never have any respect for it or them as long as I live.

    You terrorize the innocent and destroy their life, no, I don’t forgive or forget. Ever.

  12. The Great Pumpkin says:

    What to do next’
    China’s economic problems can seem sudden and surprising. Just a few years ago, its economy inspired worldwide envy. Today, signs of trouble appear to be everywhere.

    The real estate market is in a serious slump. Consumer spending is weak. Unemployment among young adults has surged above 20 percent — and the government has responded by suspending the release of that statistic.

    “The most terrifying thing is that everyone around me is at a loss of what to do next,” Richard Li, the owner of an auto parts business who has closed two of his four stores, told my colleague Li Yuan. “I used to believe that our country would become better and better.”

    Today’s newsletter is intended to help you make sense of the turnabout. My main argument is that China’s problems are not, in fact, new. They have been building for years, and Chinese leaders have long vowed to address them. So far, though, they have mostly failed to do so. That failure is catching up to them.

    The only story
    China’s ascent over the past half-century has been remarkable, producing an arguably unprecedented decline in poverty. Even so, the country’s economic model has been familiar: investing in physical capital and education to become more productive and lure residents of rural areas to cities where they work in factories.

    In previous eras, England, Germany, the U.S., Japan and South Korea all followed the same model. So did the Soviet Union, after World War II. The economist Gregory Clark called it the only story of economic development.

    After countries achieve rapid growth for several decades, they can come to resemble unstoppable forces, destined to dominate the globe. People made such predictions about the Soviet Union in the 1960s, Japan in the 1980s and China in recent years. But you’ll notice a pattern of disappointment in those examples, as Paul Krugman, the Times columnist and Nobel laureate economist, has pointed out.

    Thirteen years ago, I visited China to report a story for The Times Magazine and wrote the following:

    To continue growing rapidly, China needs to make the next transition, from sweatshop economy to innovation economy. This transition is the one that has often proved difficult elsewhere. Once a country has turned itself into an export factory, it cannot keep growing by repeating the exercise. It can’t move a worker from an inefficient farm to a modern factory more than once. It cannot even retain its industrial might forever. As a country industrializes, workers will demand their share of the bounty, as has started happening in China, and some factories will start moving to poorer countries. Eventually, a rising economy needs to take two crucial steps: manufacture goods that aren’t just cheaper than the competition, but better; and create a thriving domestic market, so that its own consumers can pick up the slack when exports inevitably slow. These steps go hand in hand. Big consumer markets become laboratories where companies know that innovations will be tested and the successful ones richly rewarded.

    I did not predict China’s current problems, to be clear. I was agnostic about whether its leaders would take the steps to build a more advanced economy. But I did describe the consensus, both inside and outside China, about what those steps were.

    China’s current problems stem from not having taken them. Its leaders have instead doubled down on the same strategies that worked in past decades, like the construction of more apartment buildings and factories. It’s not working.

    China still does not have a thriving consumer economy to replace its smokestack economy. It has neglected to build a safety net strong enough to give ordinary workers the confidence to spend more. Health insurance is spotty. “Government payments to seniors are tiny,” Keith Bradsher, The Times’s Beijing bureau chief, wrote this week. “Education is increasingly costly.”

    Why hasn’t China taken the necessary steps? Change is hard. The bureaucrats who run legacy industries like construction have more political influence than those who run nascent industries. President Xi Jinping also seems concerned that a robust consumer economy might undermine the ruling party’s authority.

    ‘At least 5 or 10 years’
    Any article about China’s economy tends to include the caveat that it could turn around soon. So consider this newsletter caveated. But telling a coherent story about why and how China would boom again is becoming harder.

    Xi is resisting changes that even Chinese experts have long advocated. The country’s population is shrinking, with the biggest declines ahead. And other countries have become warier of working with China, for geopolitical reasons.

    In that 2010 Times Magazine article, I included the following paragraph of caveat. It feels a little different 13 years later:

    None of this means China is on the verge of running out of steam. It probably has at least 5 or 10 years of rapid growth ahead, even if it simply doubles down on its current growth strategy, because it can still take more industrial market share from other countries. In a way, though, the country’s short-term strengths in manufacturing and exporting may be another reason to wonder what the future holds. Those strengths will make it harder for China to summon the urgency to remake itself.

  13. Phoenix says:

    Germany remains the ‘sick man of Europe’ as its economy stagnates

    Yeah, thanks to their stupidity in choosing American gas and energy at 5x the price that they were paying Russia for it.

    Hey, since they are our friends, maybe we can send a few billon of my hard earned tax dollars and prop up their middle class. It’s only right as they are supporting a war for us.

    Facelift face and her “foreign” experience. Hope one day her daughter has to go on the front line somewhere other than a Taylor Swift concert.

  14. Phoenix says:

    600 million angry Chinese men due to sh it ty economy.

    That is the last thing America needs or wants. Especially since so many of them are really quite skilled, and, better yet, much harder then the over estrogened Ken accessory dolls of America still trying to find out if they should be on the mens team or the ladies team.

  15. No One says:

    Trump is knowingly a liar and cheat. Whether or not dem prosecutors are targeting him unfairly or not is a separate issue, that doesn’t make Trump a better person or more suitable president. Trump’s character is clearly severely deficient, and his willingness to fake reality, not just to others but in his own mind, is something that disqualifies his candidacy for me. I think it’s quite hypocritical that Republicans who talk about “family values” are willing to accept Trump’s immorality and dishonesty.

    There are of course also many disqualifying features of Joe Biden, many of which are plainly evident for anyone with eyes.

    I won’t vote for either one of them.

  16. Very Stable Genius says:

    President is sworn to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    Biden is not an insurrectionist.

    “I won’t vote for either one of them.”

  17. Very Stable Genius says:

    Liz Cheney is right.

    “We can either be loyal to Donald Trump, or we can be loyal to the Constitution, but we cannot be both.”

  18. Phoenix says:

    No One,

    All you need to know about the integrity of America and how it feels about law, order and justice:

    https://youtu.be/pu8W0eHpXTc?t=25

  19. Libturd says:

    The world has to be laughing at us. Honestly. The choices we are almost certainly going to be left with is either voting for a narcissistic, convicted felon who still can’t admit he lost an election four years prior. Or an incoherent and feeble old man, who continues to use his office to enrich himself much like all of those before him dating back to Clinton. How anyone can honestly say a positive word about either of them is beyond my comprehension. I proudly didn’t vote for either of them.

    Some psychological evaluation needs to made as to why humans are such pushovers. I doubt the phenomenon we are experiencing would occur any differently anywhere else in the world.

    America used to attribute it’s success to it’s constitution. Today America is successful despite it. I honestly believe if it was not for our insane spending on our DOD, we would have collapsed by now. We only survive since we are the world’s safe haven for investment. I seriously wonder if the divisive politics of our two-party system and the complete lack of willingness of either party to compromise will be our ultimate undoing.

  20. Phoenix says:

    We only survive since we are the world’s safe haven for investment.

    We only survive because we control the money, like when we seized the assets of Russian Oligarchs, or just some guy with cash trying to buy a classic car out of state. Or finding cash in a car-then claiming it’s drug money.

    Our enemies know this, and will eventually turn the tide on it.

  21. BananaJoe says:

    The left and deep state hatched a plan under Obama to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.

    The collusion hoax hung over his administration and created ending who voted for him of a fair chance to implement his policies. It was the dossier, the insurance plan, the original big lie.

    That was the first attack on our democracy in this era.
    The whole insurrection claim rings hollow. It’s propaganda.

  22. BananaJoe says:

    The world is advancing without us. Biden is an afterthought. They likely don’t care what Biden is up to because they know he’s a prisoner of his predicaments. He already sold the country out to enrich himself and his family. Everyone know it.

  23. Juice Box says:

    Here is one of the student loan forgiveness letters being sent out.

    https://reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/s/xJ8OUkg0wN

  24. The Great Pumpkin says:

    Juice,

    This angers me. How is this legal? Taking tax dollars and buying votes. Biden/harris administration have forgiven your loans…no, the taxpayers did.

    28k paid to buy one vote.

  25. Old realtor says:

    If Clot were correct houses wouldn’t be selling far over asking price and there would be no bidding wars!

    Chicago says:
    August 25, 2023 at 9:39 am
    Clot once posted that during the 2004-2005 mania, he quite possibly was not aggressive enough in his listing prices. He said the realtors were self-congratulatory about closing aggressive asks, but maybe there was actually more to take. Just his passing comment.

    Fast Eddie says:
    August 25, 2023 at 8:59 am
    Home prices have bottomed out…

    Not here. If your listing price doesn’t make you feel embarrassed and queasy, you priced it too low. Bottoming out in the tri-state area means it pauses for a while them resumes its climb

  26. Juice Box says:

    Pumps – they aren’t going to tax it at the federal level either, but some states will. More coming with the SAVE program too payments to start again in October after 3 year pause.

    https://www.wpr.org/more-12k-wisconsinites-see-student-loan-forgiveness-under-changes-income-based-repayment-plans

  27. ExEx says:

    10:53 find some proof or stfu

  28. Old realtor says:

    Banana Joe has flipped his peel!

    BananaJoe says:
    August 25, 2023 at 10:46 am
    The left and deep state hatched a plan under Obama to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.

    The collusion hoax hung over his administration and created ending who voted for him of a fair chance to implement his policies. It was the dossier, the insurance plan, the original big lie.

    That was the first attack on our democracy in this era.
    The whole insurrection claim rings hollow. It’s propaganda.

  29. Juice Box says:

    Proof? Heck we live in a world where it does not matter.

    This month Biden was finally fact-checked by the Washington Post from the 2020 debate lies. The media took their time to fact-check as they are coming around. They gave Joe Biden 4 Pinnochios for his lies the highest their scale goes.

    Again the “proof” if from the Hunter Biden sweetheart deal court hearing in his own words.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/01/biden-said-his-son-earned-no-money-china-his-son-says-otherwise/

  30. ExEx says:

    11:46 deep state dumbass

    Call out the gravy seals!!

  31. OC1 says:

    Why would anyone think that Joe knows all the details about Hunters business dealings?

    Does your father know the details of every business deal/job/project/stock purchase or sale that you’ve been involved with.

    And even if Joe knew, what could he do about it?

    Hunter is a free person- he can do any kind of business deal he wants. If it’s illegal then he’s subject to the consequences.

  32. Fast Eddie says:

    The only way Republicans can win elections going forward is to make it virtually fool-proof from tampering. When you allow urban districts to paper over windows and harvest ballots, no Republican candidate is ever going to win. The left can then prop up any puppet like O’Biden and let the progressive machine do its damage behind the scenes.

    Implement a phone app with a pin/security measure and its done. No smudges, hanging chads, newly found boxes, papered over windows or any other bullshit would occur. The dems don’t want this because it takes away their ability to collude and cheat.

    Either that or don’t report results in any jurisdiction outside the cities until the cities submit their vote tallies. How many times do I have to watch the suburbs report their numbers and magically, the cities “find” a few hundred thousand votes. Bullshit. Let the cities submit their totals and THEN the outlying areas can “find” their votes. It’s only fair, right? I said right?

    Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee elected the vegetable in 2020. The system needs to have checks and security measures need to be implemented. This North Korea mail in shit and manual vote counting is ancient and allows the left to run rampant.

  33. ExEx says:

    12:18 or run candidates with an IQ over the speed limit.

  34. ExEx says:

    12:17 what’s really ironic is how Trumps offspring grifted from the Oval Office in plain view … but that is fine.

  35. WhatDoYouCall50MillionDeadBoomers APeacefulSaneCountry says:

    Pumpkin,

    Your post about China and its issues are well known. Is called the “Middle Income Trap” and the solution is well known too.

    The solution is creating a safety net so people feel confident on taking risk as consumers, investors and pursue higher risk/reward outcomes.

    You saw it as what FDR did during the depression with unemployment, Social Security, the birth of Fannie Mae, and other programs that gave us the 50’s and beyond economic growth.

    Earlier than that you saw it with Otto Von Bismark’s Social Security program in Germany ~1890’s and its economic development all the way to WW1.

    The reason it does not happen and many countries can’t close the gap and make the transition is that those that are the financial and political power brokers loose out and they know it and prefer to keep things the way they are.

  36. Juice Box says:

    Again it does not matter what proof exists, and who comes forward with proof. Everyone will continue to use the plausible deniability excuse even though Joe Biden was fully aware of his son’s dealings with the Chinese or others, how could he not know? Joe met with many of these people himself. There are photos of their meetings. You think they only talked about golf? We have documentary evidence, we have testimonial evidence from Tony Bobulinski, Devon Archer and Hunter Biden himself in court and of course plenty of circumstantial evidence.

    You are going to have to choose again next year. Choose wisely for which crook you want in office because well they are all as crooked a dog’s hind leg. We deserve better than Biden or Trump, but guess what we are not going to get it.

  37. Juice Box says:

    Right now Biden is staying at billionaires Tom Steyer’s home in Lake Tahoe for the long week leading up to Labor Day. To avoid the appearance of impropriety they actually are paying this time to “rent” the house. It can really only be considered above board that way, as in the past they usually never ever paid. Not to say other presidents did either. You won’t find that house on AirBnb for rent ever it’s a one-time thing of course.

  38. Phoenix says:

    That was the first attack on our democracy in this era.

    I’d wager some Silk City Hooch that it isn’t the first attack, and won’t be the last.

    Any takers?

  39. Fast Eddie says:

    or run candidates with an IQ over the speed limit.

    Like the turnip you call president?

  40. Libturd says:

    They are all criminals. I didn’t realize how bad it was until I first learned that congress and the senate could bounce personal checks with immunity. The more I dug into it, the more I realized that there is not a single politician in it to help you or me. All you’ve got to hope for is your parties platform positions and most of these are wedge issues where the solutions are so extreme they support only what the furthest right and left desire. The other 90% of us are truly fucked and have to be really smart and extremely disciplined to have an excellent quality of life.

    My investment and savings prowess is not a hobby. It’s a necessity.

  41. Phoenix says:

    Why would anyone think that Joe knows all the details about Hunters business dealings?

    Umm, because he is the President-and someone is watching everyone and everything around him.

    So yes, he knows.

    It’s all by design, not an accident.

  42. Phoenix says:

    Fast Eddie says:
    August 25, 2023 at 12:50 pm
    or run candidates with an IQ over the speed limit.

    Like the turnip you call president?

    What’s your eff’n problem with turnips? You racist against vegetables?

  43. Phoenix says:

    My vote for post of the day- sure it’s early, but it will be hard to top this one:

    Libturd says:
    August 25, 2023 at 12:51 pm
    They are all criminals. I didn’t realize how bad it was until I first learned that congress and the senate could bounce personal checks with immunity. The more I dug into it, the more I realized that there is not a single politician in it to help you or me. All you’ve got to hope for is your parties platform positions and most of these are wedge issues where the solutions are so extreme they support only what the furthest right and left desire. The other 90% of us are truly fucked and have to be really smart and extremely disciplined to have an excellent quality of life.

    My investment and savings prowess is not a hobby. It’s a necessity.

  44. Phoenix says:

    Oopsie. I’m sorry, our outsourced employees accidentally converted your dollars to rupees. Please come to the bank with 10 forms of identification. Your nearest branch is 700 miles away cause we closed all of the other ones as American workers are too greedy, too lazy, and spend their time looking at cat memes on TikTok.

    Wells Fargo customers left unable to use their bank cards or transfer cash amid major outage
    According to DownDetector, which tracks website outages, hundreds of users said they had experienced issues with online banking
    Frustrated customers pledged to switch banks after being left unable to make transfers or use their bank cards

  45. Phoenix says:

    Nice to know that American politicians aren’t the only crooks out there. Seems like the “Western” ones are no better than their “Eastern” counterparts

    Former French president Nicolas Sarkozy will go on trial for ‘receiving £42million in cash from Colonel Gaddafi to fund his election campaign’

  46. OC1 says:

    “Again it does not matter what proof exists, and who comes forward with proof.”

    Where is this “proof”??

    Where are the documents and bank records that back up what these guys have said?

    We have Joe Bidens tax returns for the last decade – any questionable items in there?

    “There are photos of their meetings.”

    Do you have any idea how many people get their pictures taken with the VP and prez? At every fundraiser and public event, every schmo in the building gets their picture taken with the VP.

    I have an ex-girlfriend that has a picture of her and Bill Clinton.

  47. Juice Box says:

    Ugh Trump is back on X (Twitter) after he was banned two years ago. Elon lifted all the bans but he did not come back right away until today because he has his own crazy town Truth Social to post on.

  48. Phoenix says:

    OC1

    Lies are better than proof.

    All you need is an allegation or lie when you live in a triggered country.

    Ask me how I know.

  49. Juice Box says:

    OC1 – No these were not photo ops, Among the many meetings and dinners too many meetings there was a golf matches etc which is 4+ hours plus a few more in the club for dinner. They did not talk the entire time? Nobody believes that cover story, not ever the Media anymore.

  50. Phoenix says:

    No sh it, Sherlock:

    U.S. Consumers Are Showing Signs of Stress, Retailers Say
    Consumer spending remains resilient, but retailers’ latest earnings offered a glimpse into worrying shifts in shopping habits.

  51. BRT says:

    Michael Franzese ,

    the old mafia guy who ran the gasoline scam in NYC for a long time put it very simply. Every mafia guy creates shell companies to run dirty money through. Only criminals have 20 shell companies.

  52. Phoenix says:

    UAW
    @UAW
    The votes are in, and the results are astounding: 97% of Big Three members voted YES to authorize a strike if the automakers don’t give us a fair deal.

  53. Phoenix says:

    Trump should have rode out of there on a Harley, orange hair flowing in the wind, with Nikki Haley riding shotgun.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/16101z5/donald_trump_rolling_through_atlanta_got_people/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

  54. Juice Box says:

    Ray Dalio’s latest. It’s about the cycle of order and disorder.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/declines-truth-trust-rule-law-have-throughout-history-ray-dalio/

  55. Phoenix says:

    An indigenous Lahaina local tells me she lost her house, pets, medicine and cash savings. She can’t get a call back from FEMA and has yet to see any type of US aid relief.

    She says Joe Biden should keep his insulting $700 because of the “gazillions” he’s sending Ukraine.

    Well, she didn’t exactly use the word “insulting” TBH.

    https://twitter.com/loffredojeremy/status/1694948583542251620?s=20

  56. Phoenix says:

    Juice,
    Same thing I have been saying all along.

    From your post:

    Also, it is an indisputable fact that the outcomes of even most filed legal cases are not resolved via the presentation of evidence by both sides in a court with fair judges/jurors/referees rendering fair judgements; instead, they are resolved in settlements with those who can bear the legal costs of great attorneys having big advantages. For these reasons, it’s hard for me to assess the legal system as being fair.

  57. Phoenix says:

    Zelenskyy’s mother-in-law has just purchased a Luxury Villa in El Gouna, Egypt…

    The Villa was purchased for $4,850,000USD and is next door to the estate of Angelina Jolie…

    Now you know where the humanitarian aid funds are going.

    JGGMTII
    @WJGESQ1
    ·
    8h
    Every dollar, every red cent, going to UKraine is an act of theft against the western worker.

  58. Phoenix says:

    For you “Yale” graduates, or someone who just wants a good laugh.

    https://tinyurl.com/4wmyrxam

  59. Juice Box says:

    Phoenix – Not to say there isn’t corruption there as Zelensky fired all of the Armed Forces recruiters for taking bribes, but that tweet and the documents posted with it, don’t look real and there have been many many tweets about his family buying land and properties all over the world and the corruption going on. Again I don’t doubt corruption but it is not that blatant there would be at least a shell company used.

  60. Juice Box says:

    As far as Lahaina etc the same thing happened here with Hurricane Sandy. People were shocked the government did not come in immediately and make them whole. Cheap hotel rooms, tents and debit cards? It took legislation to fund the reconstruction. It was 3 months after Congress passed a bill funding the $50.5 billion dollar Hurricane Sandy relief bill, money that is still being spent today.

  61. OC1 says:

    “Among the many meetings and dinners too many meetings there was a golf matches etc”

    Well that settles it then.

    A father playing golf with his son and his son’s friends- what else can it possibly be but a meeting to discuss the crimes they are going to commit?

  62. Bystander says:

    The difference between cult members like BananaJoe and SGC is they think their Orange Idol is a victim of deep state who committed no crimes, while most normal brained people just want the order of investigation 1. Trump (investigated for numerous crimes and now pending trial) 2. Biden family.

    No one on dem side should give a sh*t if they throw the book at Joe and Hunter if they did something. Fine by me. Neither side has good people in the lead for 2024. I watched debate bc looking for anyone to step-up but Rs are just too stupid to get message right.

  63. Jim says:

    Phoenix says:
    August 25, 2023 at 12:54 pm
    My vote for post of the day- sure it’s early, but it will be hard to top this one:
    I think this tops Libs other post, why do we have the same two fools running for president???

    Libturd says:
    August 25, 2023 at 10:33 am
    The world has to be laughing at us. Honestly. The choices we are almost certainly going to be left with is either voting for a narcissistic, convicted felon who still can’t admit he lost an election four years prior. Or an incoherent and feeble old man, who continues to use his office to enrich himself much like all of those before him dating back to Clinton. How anyone can honestly say a positive word about either of them is beyond my comprehension. I proudly didn’t vote for either of them.

  64. Very Stable Genius says:

    FUN FACTS: Lamar Jackson’s height is around 6 feet 2 inches, weighing approximately 215 pounds. Colin Kaepernick, on the other hand, has a height of around 6 feet 5 inches, weighing approximately 234 pounds. It seems highly unlikely that Trump’s Weight is 215 pounds as he claimed

  65. ExEx says:

    Alternate
    Facts

    Define this Idiot Drumpf

  66. SmallGovConservative says:

    Looks like the ladies luncheon ended and the dingbats (not Jim) all jumped online to say stupid things. You guys would be better off being your authentic selves and just admitting that you’ll always vote for the Dems — no matter how incompetent, corrupt or radically left — because you have a feminine, frightened view of the world. For whatever reason, the world is a scary place for you, you’re not confident that you can make it on your own, and you feel the Dems will be there to hold your hand when you need them. It’s an embarrassing way for a man to go through life, but you’ll feel better being your authentic selves and admitting it.

  67. Hold my beer says:

    I’m voting for Ron Swanson

  68. grim says:

    Seems silly to regulate ceiling fans, why not just force thermostat makers to not permit air conditioning below 73 degrees?

  69. RentL0rd says:

    The biggest con man of all time in American history is out on bail – with a bail bond that he took a loan on. And all the intelligent fools here want to talk about Hunter. Not Jared, Not Ivanka, not Eric. Not about the other 18 traitors who wanted to throw out the will of the people, but Hunter.

    GTFOH

  70. Phoenix says:

    Female ‘teacher of the month’ Casey McGrath charged with ‘raping student at Chattanooga high school

  71. Chicago says:

    I draw the line on Trump’s kids. I agree that the optics are bad, the ethics are poor, and the protocols were ignored, but Trump’s kids are mere opportunists following a pattern of privilege afforded by the family name and publicity generated by Trump. Kushner also has spent a lifetime running downhill and having an easy time of it.

    Hunter is a naked (literally) drug addict, illegal fire arm carrier, recidivist scumbag, lightweight. He had nothing an developed a criminal enterprise for the expressed purpose of criminality. He offered no expertise. He offered no business product or service. Pure influence peddling. He is Fredo on steroids, and such a mess that he gave away a laptop with forensic details of the enter criminal scheme. With that level of evidence, he easily should have been in jail years ago.

    Your comparison is specious.

    RentL0rd says:
    August 26, 2023 at 8:50 am
    The biggest con man of all time in American history is out on bail – with a bail bond that he took a loan on. And all the intelligent fools here want to talk about Hunter. Not Jared, Not Ivanka, not Eric. Not about the other 18 traitors who wanted to throw out the will of the people, but Hunter.

    GTFOH

  72. Hold my beer says:

    Grim

    I think the ceiling fans regulations would be ridiculously. To save $39 in electricity over the life of the fan.

  73. Phoenix says:

    Chi,
    Draw a line? Make excuses for?

    They are his children, they are not children.

    I would rather a robot or computer make legal decisions over a judge, or you, for that matter.

    This is where we have a problem, one person gets off, another does 10 years for the exact same crime.

    You know right from wrong when you are a teenager. In your twenties that should be clear to you with no excuses.

  74. crushednjmillenial says:

    So, any honest shots at Trump’s height and weight?

    I think the 6’3 is a real number. I’ve heard from people who have seen him in person that he is a tall guy.

    On weight, when I first heard “215” on the radio, I laughed audibly. At the time, I said to myself that he must be minimum 245-250. On the other hand, he certainly isn’t 300 lbs. – he walks fine and all that.

    So, my best shot at Trump’s weight would be 245-265. Anybody else want to weigh in?

  75. Juice Box says:

    crushed – They spent years making dick size jokes too.. Please don’t feed into that garbage coming from the angry liberal trolls.

  76. RentL0rd says:

    “Trump’s kids are mere opportunists ”

    They infiltered the White House, sold classified documents, made deals with Saudi Arabia, got billions for non-functioning organizations.

    But an unregistered pistol triggers you?

    You either love (and make excuses) for Trump, or you love the Constitution. Can’t have it both ways.

  77. Hold my beer says:

    Crushed

    Trump is, or at least was at least around 6 3”. Some People shrink a bit as they age, especially if they don’t work out. I walked passed one of the trump buildings in NYC in the early 90’s. A limo pulls up and trump popped out and was about 10 feet away from me as he walked into the building. I’m 6’ and he was a few inches taller than me.

    Weight I’d go with 245-275 range. My guitar teacher is 6’ 3” and 250. Trump looks heavier than him. But my guitar teacher is a genuine cowboy and is always doing stuff on his ranch and probably has more muscle mass which is denser, so trump could be 245-255. I’m 195 with visible upper abs and since trump is at least 2” taller than me I can’t see trump only being 20 pounds more than me

  78. Juice Box says:

    “Trump’s kids”

    Stop being low information retweeting dolts.

    If any of what you retweet were true they would have been indicted by now or at least under investigation. The DOJ is leaving no stone unturned. There is no open FBI investigation and no grand jury has not been convened. It would be all over the media, blasted 24 x 7 and well it ain’t.

    Here is what really happened. Six months after leaving the White House, Jared Kushner creats and now runs an investment fund for Israeli startups etc.

    It has secured billions including $2 billion investment Saudi Arabia. The crown prince probably had to approve it.

    Affinity Partners look it up. Heck I will do you one better read about it in Pravda.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/jared-kushners-new-fund-plans-to-invest-saudi-money-in-israel-11651927236

  79. Juice Box says:

    dick size jokes, hand size jokes, height size jokes, weight size jokes….Yeah this is what this blog has devolved too.

    I wonder why I waste brain cells here sometimes. Oh wait, other social media platforms are like this. That is why.

    Hat tip Chi…

    https://youtu.be/e8YObV6i_Yc?t=29

  80. Bystander says:

    Really juice? Putting d*ck size conversation on liberals? The Rs embarrassingly had a debate about hand size and penis size back in 2016. You then elected the guy who started the childish rhetoric.

  81. Juice Box says:

    NAR president Kenny Parcell has been accessed of sex harassment.

    Just read the comments they are gold….

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/26/realestate/national-association-of-realtors-sexual-harassment.html

    “An outlaw organization that I am forced to join as an agent. It is a massive tax lobbying organization under the guise of higher ethics. I am forced to pay $1000 a year for nothing. There is no evidence that realtors are more ethical than agents or brokers that do not participate. Thank god my MLS does not require membership but if your broker is a member you must join and pay the exorbitant dues.
    Think how much money 1.5 ($1000) is?”

  82. Phoenix says:

    What we use for Christie types:

    https://youtu.be/sDEGD1QTQ6o?t=95

  83. Phoenix says:

    “Should a member, colleague, vendor, or other attendee refer to an employee as ‘sweetheart’ or ‘honey’, the employee may inform that individual that they would prefer they use the employee’s name,”

    Well, sweetheart, make sure you are wearing your badge then, because depending where you work you may not remember everyone’s name. Sometimes it’s man, bro, dude, whatever when I don’t remember your name and have a brain fart.

    Or best yet, don’t address you or acknowledge you at all. The older I get and the better I know many of you, the less I want to know or associate with you at all.

    And the younger ones, most of the older guys agree, keep your distance. Anything you say, do, or think is either creepy or harassing. They flock to you when they want information, dirt on someone, or, if you are supervising, a chance to get out of work and go socialize.

    I’d wager that many I work with would rather be sexually harassed than given a work assignment. You can’t imagine the look of hate you receive when you tell a Gen Z to actually do something besides text.

  84. Fast Eddie says:

    Anything you say, do, or think is either creepy or harassing.

    Such a peculiar species, utilizing elements of ascendency and complot when warranted.

  85. Juice Box says:

    Bystander – There will be plenty of time for schadenfreude after he is convicted. The jeering from the social media grandstands and MSM about his claimed height and weight is nauseating and really never-ending in the latest news cycle. The more important story in my opinion is the man sitting in jail right now, it’s barely covered.

    Watch this 6-minute hearing of Harrison Floyd, he was denied even a public defender after he flew down from Maryland even before Trump showed up and remanded himself to custody. He could not find anyone to represent him and was denied a bond basically because he did not have an attorney. In a news media clip down in Georgia before his hearing he claimed DA said she wanted to talk to him, but refused to pick up the phone. I gather only because he did not have a lawyer and could not get even my cousin Vinny.

    The judge contradicted herself too said bond was denied because he is a flight risk. Then she said the issue of bond would not be addressed now, and the next judge assigned would decide. She did not have to remand him to custody, he has no criminal record.

    The judge seemed happy to punt it too she was smiling quite a bit, if he had an attorney he would probably have not made an appearance before a judge to discuss bond. The judge would not have any discussion. He had no choice but to represent himself when all other options seemed to be exhausted.

    I am going to refer back to what Ray Dialio said about order/disorder. It’s going to get ugly before it gets better. Several of these defendants have asked for a speedy trial, and were granted it. The clown act in the 3rd ring of the circus begins in October and the advertisers are gearing up for eyeballs for the Christmas selling season, the ad money will flow to the MSM and social media like no previous election cycle before billions upon billions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYrGOMlBAto

  86. Phoenix says:

    Eddie,
    Everything is about perception, not reality. Perception is anything you dream up in your silly head.

    The youth pick apart everyone into small pieces. I see it at work. Your hair, your socks, a comment you made, how you eat, what you eat, the list goes on forever.

    They pick apart the men and their peers. Who did she talk to. It’s all about gossip. Plus coordinated attacks or control on people- seen my older manager get a coordinated attack against her by a group trying to control her. She is nice so never saw the manipulation as the individuals planned it to look like they were not conspiring to get what they wanted.

    One of my coworkers paid for my lunch on a weekend. The little queens turned that into a rumor that we were dating.

    Welcome to the worlds most powerful amplifier. Social Media. 5000 watts per channel at 70% THD, with a 100 percent duty cycle.

  87. Phoenix says:

    I am going to refer back to what Ray Dialio said about order/disorder. It’s going to get ugly before it gets better.

    See Maxwells Demon.

  88. Fast Eddie says:

    Everything is about perception, not reality.

    Agree.

  89. Juice Box says:

    Phoenix – Half your age plus seven rule. So 50/2+ 7= 32 Youngest one you should try and socialize with is 32. This simple rule only works if you have money, and the larger the age gap the more money you need to overcome any resistance to socializing. This does not account for hair covering your head, weight or height. There are several other formulas for those and the various other variables.

    To make accurate predictions we could use AI, but then again AI Bias generally lead to unfair outcomes for all men who are not in the 1%.

  90. Juice Box says:

    Crew-7 mission Space X launch to the ISS was a success this morning.

    DOJ is now suing Elon because none of the crew were undocumented immigrants.

    NASA astronaut Jasmin Moghbeli
    ESA Europea astronaut Andreas Mogensen
    Japanese astronaut Satoshi Furukawa
    Russian cosmonaut Konstantin Borisov

  91. Fast Eddie says:

    It was announced that Molson Coors will replace Anheuser-Busch as the official beer sponsor for the Maroon and White (Texas Aggies).

    One of many to come, I presume.

    I mean, you know, football is fratty and out of touch.

  92. Fast Eddie says:

    DOJ is now suing Elon because none of the crew were undocumented immigrants.

    On top of a multi-count indictment to follow?

  93. Bystander says:

    That’s alot of excuses Juice. Sounds like Floyd is too blame if he turns himself in with no representation. Where is Trump and all his patriotic donors to help these loyal soldiers out?

  94. Juice Box says:

    Bystander – if he did not turn himself in lawyer or not they would have called in the Tommy Lee Jones to search every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse.

    Facts stated by other lawyers to the media including former prosecutors have said there’s no excuse for the magistrate judge not setting bond. That judge punted to the Superior Court Judge. Superior court judges do not hear bond matters in Georgia. They do not hear initial appearances. That is completely outside the regular course of order there. He is entitled to a bond hearing legally within 24 hours and this judge punted.

    But hey I am no attorney….but I sence that the smiling magistrate was engaged in politics there because she knew that he had no attorney and shut down any argument made about representation or “danger to the community”. The only real danger did not get in front of a Judge and only put up a 10% to a bail bondsman and he got to walk out back to his Jet Plane to fly back to New Jersey.

  95. RentL0rd says:

    As Stormy Daniels said, his is like a small mushroom. But it is not the size that matters, but the cheat that he is. Cheats on everything.

    Remember, the US moved heaven and earth to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice – not because he flew a plane into the World Trade Center, but because he incited his followers to. Get it?

  96. Juice Box says:

    Justice? Is Trump going to get that kind of Justice? They did not want him on trial dude. That was never going to happen. He would have fingered his benefactors all over the Middle East, and perhaps his time working with the CIA. Besides not taking him alive gave Obama the ability to declare victory over Al Qaeda for the rest of us here and elsewhere it was a moment of moral clarity of unambiguous American valor.

    Joe Biden still brags. “Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive” he was doing so only a few years ago on the campaign trail, so now vote for me….

    Who knows will Biden take out some terrorists too on the way to re-election?

  97. RentL0rd says:

    We are taking the Jan 6th terrorists one at a time. The head will get its turn. And by the way, a grand jury is a trial of its own kind in case you forgot.

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